Posted by Kern on August 30, 1999 at 16:07:26:
In Reply to: First time posted by Nimrod (a.k.a. Steelhead) on August 30, 1999 at 10:20:37:
Its s slower board Steelhead. In the off season it slows to a crawl. One thing you wont see is the heated discussions or name calling that is so common on the fishing board when ever the bows are running.
Posted by Fischer on August 30, 1999 at 15:58:05:
Anyone know where I can get Bismuth or Tungsten shells at a good price in the Kitchener area?
Have 2 older 12 gauge and 16 gauge doubles and there is no way I'm going to put steel through them. Haven't duck hunted in years, so all I have around are lead. Don't want to spend an arm and a leg on new shells when I don't know how much I'll use them.
Posted by Nick on August 30, 1999 at 15:06:17:
In Reply to: Re: Remington 870 posted by Kern on August 30, 1999 at 14:49:51:
An excellent choice of words Kern !!! I'll take my 3 1/2" Remington over a 3" anyday !!
Posted by Kern on August 30, 1999 at 14:49:51:
In Reply to: Re: Remington 870 posted by bottomtickler on August 30, 1999 at 12:54:57:
If it was "Ballistically" a waste of time, Remington and Browning wouldnt have done it. Steel shot, as we all know, is somewhat bigger than lead to make up for mass. This reduces shot count in your shell. A larger shell means more shot. More shot = denser patterns = cleaner shots.
Posted by Bill on August 30, 1999 at 14:47:24:
In Reply to: Re: Steel shot posted by Dave on August 27, 1999 at 22:41:34:
Eli's Gun & Tackle at 75 Norfolk Street South in Simcoe,Ontario also sells Challenger ammunition.
Posted by Fischer on August 30, 1999 at 13:56:19:
In Reply to: Re: *** Carrying handguns in Ontario. posted by Tackleberry on August 29, 1999 at 11:37:15:
Tack
I read your proposal and assumed you meant carrying for hunting purposes. After re-reading, I realize you mean concealed carry for private individuals on the street.
I'm all for it!! And I think that small business owners should be specially invited to participate. Enough of this crap where a law-abiding citizen get's in a jackpot just because he's trying to stop thugs and theives from having open season on his inventory.
That guy in N.S. last week got a raw deal. It's not supposed be against the law to use force to stop someone who has committed an indictable offence! So why do these guys keep getting charged, and worse - convicted?
Posted by bottomtickler on August 30, 1999 at 12:54:57:
In Reply to: Remington 870 posted by REC on August 30, 1999 at 10:35:27:
Buy the Express, since the only real difference between it and a Wingmaster is in cosmetics. The synthetic stock is wirthwhile if you intend to do a lot of duck hunting and the gun will likely get wet a lot. The 3-1/2 inch chamber is a waste of money. The 3-1/2 inch chamber is a stupid option creted by Mossberg's marketing department (so they could have a feature other gun makers like Remington didn't) ..... the pthers had to also offer it too even though ballistically it means absolutely nothing to your shooting success. You can't make something "more dead" by pumping more lead into it.
The Express is a wonderful gun and in 26" barrell length, very comfortable to shoot all day. Hope you enjoy it. Good luck.
Posted by Kevin on August 30, 1999 at 12:41:30:
In Reply to: First time posted by Nimrod (a.k.a. Steelhead) on August 30, 1999 at 10:20:37:
Welcome... what you see is pretty much what you get.
Posted by REC on August 30, 1999 at 10:35:27:
Besides the quality of the wood and the barrel finish, are there any other significant differences between a wingmaster and an express model 870. The difference in price is like $300.00. I'm looking for an all purpose gun - geese, ducks, grouse, sharptail etc. - and think I'll settle for a 26" barrel with wood stock. Does this sound sensible? Any compelling reason to go 3 1/2" or synthetic?
Posted by Nimrod (a.k.a. Steelhead) on August 30, 1999 at 10:20:37:
Hello, all. This is my first time to this board (just found out about it). What can I expect here? Are things about the same as the fishing board?
Posted by Fischer on August 30, 1999 at 09:09:21:
In Reply to: Re: *** Carrying handguns in Ontario. posted by Tackleberry on August 29, 1999 at 11:37:15:
Tack,
Great Idea!!!
Your proposal sounds like it would involve bureaucrats up to your Wazoo, and would cost thousands of taxpayer dollars for every participant.
Why haven't the Feds jumped on this bandwagon already???!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seriously, though, I like your plan but think it goes off the track when you mention "concealed". Most politicians (and cops) have a fit at the thought of someone carrying concealed.
Let's go back to the old rules, where you could carry, in full view. Amend it so that you can only carry at your hunting destination (common sense) Of course, a reasonable competency test would be in order, but really, they don't do that for long guns.
As far as the yearly review, you know how I feel about having to prove to the gov't that I can do something that they already know I can do (hope that's understandable!)
Posted by Nick on August 29, 1999 at 21:04:14:
In Reply to: Re: Steel shot posted by Kern on August 27, 1999 at 22:25:14:
Kern, Used the gun at the end of the season last year and it worked well. I bought this shot in 3" number 2 shot. The store I got the shells at were stocked very heavy in the this shot. So they are very confident in the product they bought for the upcoming season. Nick
Posted by Tackleberry on August 29, 1999 at 11:49:53:
In Reply to: Re: *** Carrying handguns in Ontario. posted by Tackleberry on August 29, 1999 at 11:37:15:
What was I thinking..............................
...............a manditory annual qualification test.
Posted by Tackleberry on August 29, 1999 at 11:37:15:
In Reply to: Carrying handguns in Ontario. posted by Kevin on August 24, 1999 at 23:36:02:
I don't think I see the reason for clarifying while hunting. ????
What really would be wrong with qualified individuals carrying concelled???
It would be simple to set up;
Develop a standardized training course, approx. 30-40 hrs. in total. The course would consist of 1/ eight hours consisting of law and legal ramifications on the possession, carrying, and use of a firearm. 2/ Firearms introdudtion and ballistics, leading to what ballistics will do. 5/ Choosing one's firearm. 6/ Handling and firing, approx.15-18 hrs. with specified firearms. 7/ Manditory compency test and marksmenship score. 9/ An approved method of screening applicants for criminal records, local incidents (no charges laid??, how many times have the police been to your house? for what?) psychological assessments. 10/ Abstainers clause(zero alcohol in system when carrying) 11/ Graduated License system by action and calibre. (each action would have a "bracket calibre" "small & large"). 10/ A system to enable to expand a license to another action and/or calibre.
The class moto would be "Now You Know"
After the implementation of this course, the only thing to do would be ENFORCE THE EXISTING LAWS!!!!!
Safe Shooting, Tack
Posted by Tackleberry on August 29, 1999 at 10:02:09:
In Reply to: Re: FAC horror story posted by DEER SLAYER on August 25, 1999 at 06:14:35:
Did you not wonder why there is a section in the application specifically for spouces????
Posted by Tackleberry on August 29, 1999 at 09:43:00:
In Reply to: FAC Testing posted by Darryl on August 25, 1999 at 16:37:08:
Darryl,
I am an intstructor, however, I am in Guelph. I know one in the area but escapes me right now.
Checkout the Fireams Safety Education Service of Ontario (FSESO)site, it has all of the certified instructors listed by location and a phone #.
www.fseso.org (I'll check on the site and confirm adress)
Safe Shooting
Tack
Posted by Tackleberry on August 29, 1999 at 09:15:59:
In Reply to: Challenger Munitions posted by Shooter on August 29, 1999 at 00:52:29:
I too have used a Challenger product and have been extremely impressed. A number of years ago I purchased a box of 12ga rifled slugs. (10 per box) The accuracy put the Federals to shame. Using my Rem870 with smooth bore/impcyl and rifle sights, benched at 100yds. I was able to obtain a three shot group at approx. 3.5" .
It is an interesting design, the slug appears to have only two "grooves", the wad is a buffer design and flys with the slug. (yes I recovered one) 100 yds. is its "area". I have a cardboard target that was placed at 50 & 100 yrds.. The hole at 50 yrds. was ever slightly imperfect. The one side of the hole was grey(lead) and rounded. The other side was a round with a clean cut from the wad. The 100 yrd. target had a nice clean hole. All I can determine is that at 50 yrds. the slug hasn't stablied yet, and it only hit the width of the slug high from the point of aim.
Safe Shooting
Posted by Shooter on August 29, 1999 at 00:52:29:
I highly reccomend the Challenger ammo. They are based out of St Justine Quebec. They are Canadian Manufactured and the Manager/owner is a ballistics expert and delves into producing new and innovative powders and loads. If i sound like an advertisement well...... I did promo them in the St Clair region for a few years.
What Challenger does lack is advertising, and after using their promo ammo for a couple seasons in the marsh and the trap range i offered to promo for them. I am not in the professional promo biz and i ONLY reccomend quality components that i have used, am familiar with and like, such as Ranger boats, Berkley fishing lines, Shimano and CHALLENGER Ammo.
I settled with the 3inch 1 3/8 ounce load for big waterfowl and geese. I hit 70 to 80% with this Challenger load. I alos handed out a few dozen of thier sabot type slugs for deer. Hunters were extatic over them and reported tight groups at 100 yards and clean kills out to 150. Personally I never shot them.
If you do not have Challenger in your area, you may wish to contact Mr Elie Zarife at head office and propose a promo deal to him. If you wish info on my own personal and productive promo strategy for Lake St Clair and Rondeau areas, send me an email. It worked GREAT!
Shooter
Posted by Shooter on August 29, 1999 at 00:37:05:
finally updated my hunt page. Enter the site through www.angelfire.com/la/outdoorspot Nuthin fer sale, just hunt/fish info in the Lake St Clair region. If you know of a website that i should be linking to on my Links page... let me know
Early goose season is real close.
Shooter
Posted by Dave on August 27, 1999 at 22:41:34:
In Reply to: Steel shot posted by Nick on August 27, 1999 at 22:10:59:
The Challenger brand has been around for a while now, at least 5 or 6 yrs. now, i`ve used them (lead & steel)in Sask. over the yrs. they have worked well for me, i only take Federal and Challengers now, i have a few boxes of there steel Challengers, but i do not remember if the name is Aciers or not ?? U can buy them at Toronto Gun on the Queensway, Lou has been carry them for some time now, the shells are made in Quebec, ask Lou for more info. on the shells, he use to shoot Challengers in compations !!
Dave
Posted by Kern on August 27, 1999 at 22:25:14:
In Reply to: Steel shot posted by Nick on August 27, 1999 at 22:10:59:
Hi Nick, Havent heard of that one or seen it around here. Last year I tried Winchester supreme HV steel. Shoots 1 3/8 oz @ 1450. Not a bad round @ $26.00 a box. Also comes in 3 1/2 12 ga. What size shot did you buy?? Have you patterened your new gun on steel yet??
Posted by Nick on August 27, 1999 at 22:10:59:
Well I went out today and bought some shells to get into the hunting mood as if I needed it ! The store I was at recommended getting a new shell that I have not seen in the stores around the Peterborough area. They are made by Challenger and called Steel Acier in 3" Super Mag. 1 1/4oz and shoot at 1450. They said that this is what all of the stores in the Lake St. Claire area are selling and come highly recommended. I am wondering if anyone else out there has heard of these shells or have used them and what they are like. Thanks !! Nick
Posted by Fischer on August 27, 1999 at 14:09:50:
In Reply to: Re: Carrying handguns in Ontario. posted by Kevin on August 26, 1999 at 17:02:10:
Don't you know? We're hunters and shooters. It's OK to discriminate against us - we're Politically Incorrect! Tho' I have to say it is more the Fed's fault than the prov. gov't.
Discrimination is simply a catch-all term for "I DIDN'T GET MY OWN WAY - WAAAAHHH!"
Posted by Bob on August 26, 1999 at 21:10:51:
In Reply to: Ontario bear posted by Kevin on August 24, 1999 at 07:51:54:
Things may be real interesting next spring. Hope it doesn't take someone getting killed to wake them up. I went for a walk yesterday, crossed a beaver dam. On the way back, beside the dam was fresh bear *hit and a busted up stump. I hadn't been gone 20 minutes. And I took a leak on that stump on the way in!
Posted by johnny4008 on August 26, 1999 at 19:50:46:
In Reply to: POCKET KNIVES posted by John on August 23, 1999 at 11:05:56:
Just recieved my knife . Thank you it is just great best knife for the price I have found.
Posted by M.Pisani on August 26, 1999 at 17:15:07:
In Reply to: Re: Ontario Out of Doors: What Happened? posted by Steve on January 30, 1999 at 10:17:54:
You fail to realize two points. OOOD is a business like any other. They rely mostly on advertisements to generate their money. Therefore it only makes sense to go after the larger piece of the pie, that being fishing.
Besides, OOOD is one of the few if any magazines that tackle the political issues along with OFAH. Most people that make up the large urban-areas of Ontario (let's say Toronto) are revolted by the thought of killing animals anyway. People such as yourselves who claim to be "hunting purists", represent a small percentage of the overall picture.
I believe the only way your sport will continue onto the next generation is with the support of anglers. Bottom line, OOOD does a good job. I enjoy their articles and apparently so do a lot of other people.
Posted by Kevin on August 26, 1999 at 17:02:10:
In Reply to: Re: Carrying handguns in Ontario. posted by Fischer on August 26, 1999 at 09:15:43:
That`s my beef! Why should I have to challenge it in court if it`s already legal? Discrimination...you bet.
Posted by Kevin on August 26, 1999 at 16:56:02:
In Reply to: Re: Carrying handguns in Ontario. posted by Kern on August 26, 1999 at 07:59:36:
Trappers, prospectors, and pilots to name a few.
Posted by Fischer on August 26, 1999 at 09:15:43:
In Reply to: Re: Carrying handguns in Ontario. posted by Kevin on August 25, 1999 at 20:29:43:
Kevin In reality, it should not be that difficult to get a carry permit for personal protection either. The opportunity is there, and the standard is not that high.
The problem being, unless you are a politician or a Bay St. lawyer, you haven't got a hope of getting one. The cops will simply refuse to issue it, without even having a reason, other than the fact that they don't want honest citizens to carry handguns. And unless you've got the financial means to challenge the refusal in court, you out of luck.
Even if one person did challenge it and was successful, it would not provide opportunity for anyone else. Every single one of them would still have to apply, be refused, then fight it out in court.
Posted by Kern on August 26, 1999 at 07:59:36:
In Reply to: Re: Carrying handguns in Ontario. posted by Kevin on August 25, 1999 at 20:29:43:
What segment of the population carry sidearms in the woods?? Are talking about Wardens??
Posted by Kern on August 26, 1999 at 07:57:33:
In Reply to: Re: Need info on choke for steel shot//65yrds with steel!! posted by DocT on August 25, 1999 at 23:14:20:
Thanks for the URL DocT. Ill check it out. I had the chance to look at some tungsten and bithmuth in some stores arount Toronto. A box of 10 shells in 10 ga run about 33.00!!! I didnt see 3 1/2 12 ga but I suspect they run the same price as 10 ga. 3 inch 12 ga was around 27.00 if i remember correctly. I still may buy 1 box dispite the price. Talk about selecting your shots!!
Posted by DEER SLAYER on August 26, 1999 at 06:02:33:
In Reply to: Re: Need info on choke for steel shot//65yrds with steel!! posted by Kevin on August 25, 1999 at 07:43:19:
You got that right..........I try & catch it every weekend.............safe & happy hunting.........DEER SLAYER
Posted by DocT on August 25, 1999 at 23:14:20:
In Reply to: Re: Need info on choke for steel shot//65yrds with steel!! posted by Kern on August 24, 1999 at 18:47:02:
Bismuth is availble for the 10Ga and is about 90% as dense as lead. Also the new tungsten-matrix & tungsten-polymer should greatly extend ranges to nearly that of lead. You can read all about these ballistics on my website at http://www.miducks.com
Posted by Kevin on August 25, 1999 at 20:29:43:
In Reply to: Re: Carrying handguns in Ontario. posted by Bob on August 25, 1999 at 20:03:54:
Bob; That wouldn`t be acceptable to me,if it`s already acceptable and legal for a certain segment of the population, then our Ontario government is discriminating against us on this issue too?
Posted by Bob on August 25, 1999 at 20:03:54:
In Reply to: Carrying handguns in Ontario. posted by Kevin on August 24, 1999 at 23:36:02:
Don't suppose Jean would let us carry an Eskimo carving eh? Seriously what about a black powder single shot, or non-cartridge revolver?
Posted by Kevin on August 25, 1999 at 18:32:25:
In Reply to: FAC Testing posted by Darryl on August 25, 1999 at 16:37:08:
Darryl; Ask that same question over at this site
http://www.cfc-ccaf.gc.ca/Default_en.htm
Posted by Kevin on August 25, 1999 at 17:24:40:
In Reply to: Carrying handguns in Ontario. posted by Kevin on August 24, 1999 at 23:36:02:
Thanks for your input, the key to the question being having to complete the standard course which already allows people in Ontario to carry handguns in our forests...if it`s good for some then why should it be any different for the rest of the population?
Posted by Darryl on August 25, 1999 at 16:37:08:
I just turned 18 and would like to get my FAC and buy my own gun before duck season (if possible), because my Dad's hand-me-down is getting old. So, would someone please be as kind as to send me a phone number of an instructor in the Pickering/Durham area. Much appreciated.
Posted by Kern on August 25, 1999 at 13:42:13:
In Reply to: Carrying handguns in Ontario. posted by Kevin on August 24, 1999 at 23:36:02:
I personally dont think hand guns belong in the bush except maybe as a side arm and then only under certaintain circumstances. Ive heard aguements for small calibre side arms to quickly dispense of any animal suffering from a badly placed shot, but in the same time it takes to teach someone handgun safty you can educate them on bullet selection and placement. A side arm may offer some protection when hunting areas with bear and cougar but I understand most of these kind of attacks are sudden and unexpected. Im going to bet that in the time it takes the average person to unholster their side arm that same person can sholder their long gun. Mind you if you hunting quail in BC with a 410 or 20 ga and a your suddenly attacked by one of these beasts, your bird gun will be little if any protection. Pretty hard to justify esp. when you look at how many reported incidents we have in Canada.
Posted by Chuck on August 25, 1999 at 11:12:14:
In Reply to: Carrying handguns in Ontario. posted by Kevin on August 24, 1999 at 23:36:02:
I would be in aggreement however like Fischer I believe it would be a tough sell.
Posted by Fischer on August 25, 1999 at 08:40:43:
In Reply to: Carrying handguns in Ontario. posted by Kevin on August 24, 1999 at 23:36:02:
I am absolutely in favour of it, but believe it is a total waste of time to pursue it in the current political climate. Sorry.
Posted by Kevin on August 25, 1999 at 07:43:19:
In Reply to: Re: Need info on choke for steel shot//65yrds with steel!! posted by DEER SLAYER on August 25, 1999 at 07:00:00:
That`s the show! We need more like that one.
Posted by DEER SLAYER on August 25, 1999 at 07:00:00:
In Reply to: Re: Need info on choke for steel shot//65yrds with steel!! posted by Kevin on August 24, 1999 at 20:00:53:
Aha...........you were watching American Shooter on the weekend weren't you????????
Posted by DEER SLAYER on August 25, 1999 at 06:14:35:
In Reply to: Re: FAC horror story posted by Sid on August 24, 1999 at 16:42:18:
You're right about the wife.........I got a letter back saying that they made a mistake and that your wife cannot reference you but she can guarantee your photo..............had to send in new reference.............strange, that they wouldn't let the one you live with be a reference afterall, who knows you better than your spouse???????? Bureacrats are a**holes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Kevin on August 24, 1999 at 23:36:02:
Are you in favour of Ontario residents carrying handguns in the bush for hunting and personal protection after successfully completing the wilderness handgun course?
Posted by Kevin on August 24, 1999 at 23:09:27:
In Reply to: Re: Ontario bear posted by Kern on August 24, 1999 at 21:27:07:
Kern; I`d rather carry my .41 magnum!:)
Posted by Tackleberry on August 24, 1999 at 22:40:10:
In Reply to: Re: Remington 870 Express Magnum posted by Nick on August 24, 1999 at 10:17:19:
Nick, didn't you realize I gave you credit earlier??
Tack
Posted by Kern on August 24, 1999 at 21:27:07:
In Reply to: Re: Ontario bear posted by Kevin on August 24, 1999 at 21:17:33:
Im betting that bear bit will be a tad bit more painful then any dog bite. 'Course you could change your coyote gun to something like a 7mm or 300 Mag. as long as you dont plan to do anything with the pieces of hide.
Posted by Kevin on August 24, 1999 at 21:17:33:
In Reply to: Re: Ontario bear posted by Bob on August 24, 1999 at 19:50:37:
I want to start calling coyotes soon but I`m a little concerned with having a bear come in.It`s difficult to raise your arms,and make yourself look bigger than you are when you`re being chewed on, although the loud screams should come easy! Maybe we should have a concealed carry law?
Posted by Steve Redgwell on August 24, 1999 at 20:17:49:
In Reply to: Re: Ontario Maps - Crown Land posted by Bob on August 24, 1999 at 19:54:58:
Great suggestion Bob. Any one around the Parry Sound area?
Posted by Kevin on August 24, 1999 at 20:00:53:
In Reply to: Re: Need info on choke for steel shot//65yrds with steel!! posted by Kern on August 24, 1999 at 18:47:02:
The test I saw demonstrated steel against tungsten and the tungsten punctured tin at 50yds and the steel would only puncture it at 30yds.
Posted by Bob on August 24, 1999 at 19:54:58:
In Reply to: Re: Ontario Maps - Crown Land posted by Skyman on August 23, 1999 at 21:51:40:
Check out a local real estate office. The larger ones use property maps that show crown land.
Posted by Bob on August 24, 1999 at 19:50:37:
In Reply to: Ontario bear posted by Kevin on August 24, 1999 at 07:51:54:
Local paper quotes MNR as saying bear incidents have quadruppled in Northern Victoria County 165 complaints so far vs 40 for last year.
Posted by Kern on August 24, 1999 at 18:47:02:
In Reply to: Re: Need info on choke for steel shot//65yrds with steel!! posted by Kevin on August 24, 1999 at 18:41:14:
What kind of ranges to you get with tungsten???? Ive been looking for an alternative load to steel but havent seen it in 10 ga.
Posted by Kevin on August 24, 1999 at 18:41:14:
In Reply to: Re: Need info on choke for steel shot//65yrds with steel!! posted by Nick on August 24, 1999 at 17:28:43:
Anything past 30 yards is pushing it for steel, tungsten is better.Modified chokes are ok, steel might slightly bulge a tube with a full choke.
Posted by Kevin on August 24, 1999 at 18:24:25:
In Reply to: Re: Ontario bear posted by Kern on August 24, 1999 at 11:37:05:
Kern, it was on the local news(MCTV) yesterday, I don`t know where the data came from.
Posted by Nick on August 24, 1999 at 17:28:43:
In Reply to: Re: Need info on choke for steel shot//65yrds with steel!! posted by Kern on August 24, 1999 at 14:41:18:
Kern, Well maybe not 65 yards but you always have to talk about the big one right !!! maybe 55-60 yards for sure !! and I'll try the ducks at that range this fall !!!
Posted by Sam on August 24, 1999 at 16:50:56:
In Reply to: Re: Remington 870 Express Magnum posted by Skyman on August 23, 1999 at 21:38:44:
Thanks for everybodies input, it really helped me make up my mind. More than likely I'm going to pick up the Express Thanks again sam
Posted by Sid on August 24, 1999 at 16:42:18:
In Reply to: FAC horror story posted by TC on August 24, 1999 at 09:55:18:
The only problem I had was with the reference portion. I'm pretty sure that a spouse was able to be a reference as well as a photo guarantor. Miramichi sent me a letter for new references. After sending in the new references, I had my PAL within the month. Altogether, the process took about 3-4 months. Hope you get yours in time to get the new rifle.
Posted by Stephen McNulty on August 24, 1999 at 16:03:23:
In Reply to: Ontario Maps - Crown Land posted by Steve Redgwell on August 23, 1999 at 14:36:46:
I was in the same frame of mind last year. Call the local mnr office for the area that you want the map. They took my info over the phone, paid with a visa number and the map arrived, in less than a week. Only snag I ran into is if you want a map from each different area, you have to call each individual office.
PS. worked out great, I managed to find 2 great spots for grouse, close to home and not used by others.
Posted by Kern on August 24, 1999 at 14:41:18:
In Reply to: Re: Need info on choke for steel shot posted by Nick on August 24, 1999 at 14:21:23:
Hey Nick...have you tried to shoot ducks at that range?? Everything Ive read says past 40 yrds the steel has no energy left. I know your gun can drop birds with lead at that range but Ive never even tried to shoot them with steel at that range.
Posted by Nick on August 24, 1999 at 14:21:23:
In Reply to: Need info on choke for steel shot posted by Frank on August 24, 1999 at 13:44:39:
Frank,
When using steel shot for geese or ducks I was told to use a modified as the full is to tight causing an overload of steel at the end and in time causing the end to mushroom out or blow. I use a modified in my shotgun and shoot up to steel T shot with not problem out to about 60 to 65 yards !! Good luck Nick
Posted by Frank on August 24, 1999 at 13:44:39:
I have heard that when using large steel shot (2,BB etc) you should never use a Full choke. Is this true? What choke should one use for large steel shot (Goose hunting)?
Posted by Steve Redgwell on August 24, 1999 at 11:44:15:
In Reply to: Re: Ontario Maps - Crown Land posted by Tackleberry on August 23, 1999 at 21:57:03:
I guess I'll have to drop by the local MNR office. Maybe they will be able to provide a "master list" from which you can pick.
Posted by Kern on August 24, 1999 at 11:37:05:
In Reply to: Ontario bear posted by Kevin on August 24, 1999 at 07:51:54:
Who is saying this??? Its so easy to skew statistics to make the data show what you want!!!
Posted by Nick on August 24, 1999 at 10:17:19:
In Reply to: Remington 870 Express Magnum posted by Sam on August 23, 1999 at 18:03:06:
Sam,
I bought the Remington 870 Express Super Mag last year. Got it near the end of the season but got out a few times with it before the close of the season. I had no problems dropping ducks at a good yardage. I also had no problem bringing down a couple of geese using steel 3 1/2" 'T' shot !. I am looking very forward to getting out and having it for the full waterfowl season this year !! Whatever your choice for a gun this year is Sam I wish you luck but don't overlook the Remington !! Nick
Posted by TC on August 24, 1999 at 09:55:18:
Around the first week of April, I sent in my for my Aquisition and Possession permit as mine was due to expire in June.I sent in all the proper paper work,photo ID, 80 dollar money order etc. and I am positive all was in order (as per the instructions) as I double and triple checked it.In the first week of June the processing centre in the Maritimes sent back my paper work with a letter saying it was incomplete,so I phoned to ask why.They told me that my exam and course papers were not correct (although they were). Faxed them back the exact same documents which they then said were fine. A few days later I got a phone call and the lady told me that they had my photo,exam results,and money order,but had LOST my application form. Yes,you heard right ,LOST IT !! To make a long story short,I was told,that I had to fill out an entire new application (complete with the references) if I ever have any hope of seeing this permit.So I had no choice but to do this.Still have no FAC and have heard nothing. I found this entire experience very frustrating and a total pain in the #$$ (especially since I was planning on a new rifle for moose this year). I am going to my MP to complain about all this face to face and see what he says.Sorry to be venting here,just frustrated I guess. Has anyone else experienced problems of this nature?
Posted by DocT on August 24, 1999 at 08:24:01:
Hunters...Point your browser to the Great Lakes Waterfowler located at http://www.miducks.com We have over 50 pages of waterfowl related content!
Posted by Kevin on August 24, 1999 at 07:51:54:
Well now they`re saying the black bear population in Ontario is 50% larger than previously thought...that must be a real surprise for our liberal conservatives at Queens Park.
Posted by Kern on August 24, 1999 at 07:47:09:
In Reply to: Remington 870 Express Magnum posted by Sam on August 23, 1999 at 18:03:06:
If your looking at the 3 1/2 inch round, the 870 express is the way to go. Anything else that shoots that size shell is much more expensive and doesnt stand up to rough hanling as well ie: Mossberg. For a couple extra dollars you can get the combo with a rifled barrel and you'll be set for hunting almost anything. Labarons was the best price last year, thats where my uncle bought his.
Posted by Tackleberry on August 23, 1999 at 22:24:05:
In Reply to: Remington 870 Express Magnum posted by Sam on August 23, 1999 at 18:03:06:
Sam, exellent choice, if your looking to be hunting, not in to competions, that's all you are going to need. I have the 870 comb, since '92, not one problem with it. Even use it for my FAC !opps! PAL course, so it gets a work out, not a problem. It only has the 3" chamber but I work with a fella that picked up one last year in 31/2" and loves it. Drops geese real nice, so I'm told.
The other consideration is that Remington and every other after market company under the sun has after market products for this gun.
You will not regret it.
Tack
Posted by Tackleberry on August 23, 1999 at 21:57:03:
In Reply to: Ontario Maps - Crown Land posted by Steve Redgwell on August 23, 1999 at 14:36:46:
Hey Steve, I had the same problem. I looked to the areas that carried top maps, etc. but then thought about it..... who is responsible for crown land??? Why the MNR is. BUT, because the tracks of land vary some much in size, you're going to have to know the township you are interested in. You can get 8.5 x 11" copies of the townships from them that are shaded to indicate the tracks. I think I have seen some offices with enlarged maps showing their jurisdiction.
So.. this means you have to contact the local office responsible for that township.
Good Luck , & Good Hunting
Tack
Posted by Skyman on August 23, 1999 at 21:51:40:
In Reply to: Ontario Maps - Crown Land posted by Steve Redgwell on August 23, 1999 at 14:36:46:
You have to go to the MNR office of the district you want to know about. Alternately in each community there is usually a couple of hunting or fishing shops that sell them too. For the Bracebridge office you can get them at the information both on the side of highway 11 between Gravenhurst and Bracebridge. For the Minden district they may be picked up at Minden Bait & Tackle at the highway 35, highway 121 junction. You may be able to order them dirct from the Queens Printer for Ontario. Never tried them before but it may be worth a try.
Posted by Skyman on August 23, 1999 at 21:38:44:
In Reply to: Remington 870 Express Magnum posted by Sam on August 23, 1999 at 18:03:06:
I've been looking for an all purpose shotgun too and your choice is the same as mine. I can't find a cheap one yet but I do have some information that may be useful. If you buy the 870 with the receiver for 3 inch shells then you can buy a 3 1/2 inch barrel and it will properly fire or a 2 1/2 inch barrel will fit too. The extra room for the 3 1/2 inch shells is in the barrel and not the receiver. A 870 with the 2 1/2 cannot be up graded though. It may be cheaper to go this way and then buy the 3 1/2 inch shell barrel later when you get into geese.
Posted by Doug on August 23, 1999 at 18:23:51:
If you like to hunt you should try to fill out the hunting survey.You will be surprised at some of the answers. Keep this great local (Ontario) hunting web site active.
Posted by Sam on August 23, 1999 at 18:03:06:
I'm looking for a pump shotgun and right now I'm thinking about the Remington 870 Express. The one I'm looking at accepts 2 3/4, 3 and 3 1/2 with a 28 inch barrel. I guess I'm really looking for an all purpose shotgun. Right now I only plan on going after duck, but maybe geese, and possibly buckshot later on. I was in to Lebarons, and it was $425. I was wondering if anybody knew of cheaper places or if anybody had any opinons about the gun. any help would be great thanks Sam
Posted by RSM on August 23, 1999 at 17:01:08:
In Reply to: Re: Crossbows posted by Brad on February 03, 1999 at 20:41:33:
Are EXCALIBUR crossbows really that much better than HORTON crossbows? I have a LEGEND that groups quarter sized groups easily. Alough it is rather loud I would love to know if the EXOCET can outperform my LEGEND in both accuracy and in noise levels.
THANKS and GOOD HUNTING R.S.M
Posted by TC on August 23, 1999 at 16:07:01:
In Reply to: Moose Seminar posted by Tackleberry on August 22, 1999 at 23:13:44:
I agree. Heard Rick Foss at the Canadian Bowhunters Show and Clinic last year. Good speaker,great informaton!!
Posted by Steve Redgwell on August 23, 1999 at 14:36:46:
Does anyone know where a person could get maps of crown land? I can get topo maps, I'm looking for maps that outline the areas owned by the Crown here in our lovely province of Ontario.
Posted by John on August 23, 1999 at 11:05:56:
Number of lockback pocket knives for sale. Good spare for pocket or pack.E-Mail me
Posted by Mike on August 23, 1999 at 06:17:22:
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Posted by Tackleberry on August 23, 1999 at 03:14:12:
In Reply to: Re: Moose Seminar posted by Steve Redgwell on August 23, 1999 at 00:39:25:
I don't know who is slated, the posting didn't say.
Yes Rick is very knowledgeable. "See you there"
Posted by Steve Redgwell on August 23, 1999 at 00:39:25:
In Reply to: Moose Seminar posted by Tackleberry on August 22, 1999 at 23:13:44:
Is that the one offered by Rick Foss? If so, it's well worth it to go. I went a few years ago and they covered more than just calling. I had a really enjoyable day. Safe Shooting! Steve
Posted by Tackleberry on August 22, 1999 at 23:13:44:
Well folks, I was at Shooter's Choice the other day, and saw this anouncement and thought y'all might benefit by it.
Moose Calling Seminar; Mon.Sept.13 7-10 pm OR Sat.Sept.18 1-4 pm Registration Fee $10
The store is located on Colby Drive in Waterloo (519) 746-8139
Happy calling, and safe hunting. Tack
Posted by Bob on August 22, 1999 at 21:58:42:
In Reply to: Web Pages posted by Bob on August 20, 1999 at 21:23:43:
Try the Ontario Federation of Anglers and Hunters (show sponsors) web page
http://www.ofah.org/
Posted by Nick on August 22, 1999 at 21:21:18:
Today while driving around town I saw a flock of geese beside a lake. About 25 or so of them. I noticed that most of them had been double banded. On the one leg with the general metal band and on the other with a larger back band with yellow numbering. Has anyone herad of the MNR or Ducks Unlimited banding birds in the Peterborough area ?? Or has anyone else seen birds with similar markings ????
Posted by larry hallman on August 22, 1999 at 01:22:57:
In Reply to: Tips on coyote hunting. posted by George Melton on January 16, 1999 at 16:18:56:
ANDY,MORNING AND EVEING ARE MOST ALWAYS BEST.IN WINTER WHEN COYOTES HAVE TO WORK HARDER FOR THERE FOOD,CALL ALL DAY.YOU DO CALL COYOTES DON'T YOU??? IF I HAVE A STARTER KIT FOR LEARNING COYOTE CALLING,YOU GET A HOME MADE CASSETTE TAPE ON HOW AND WHAT TO DO TO CALL COYOTES YOU ALSO GET A COYOTE CALL!!!STARTER KIT:$25.00 AND I'LL PAY THE SHIPPING,LOWER 48. I HAVE BEEN CALLING COYOTES OVER THIRTY YEARS AND HAVE SHOT 400-600 COYOTES. LARRY
Posted by United we stand on August 21, 1999 at 11:26:42:
In Reply to: Hunting or Sport? posted by Gavin Clark on August 20, 1999 at 17:27:51:
I'm sure most of the anti-hunters out there would like to hear our opinions too. Thats why I won't give you one.
Posted by Mike on August 21, 1999 at 06:57:35:
Tasco wide angle range finding-trajectory compensating scope for sale. 3-9X40mm. TR39X40WA. 7 range drums, lense covers. Excellent condition. $175.00 email me or call (905) 799-9315.
Posted by Bob on August 20, 1999 at 21:23:43:
Here's another Ontario web page for you guys and gals to check out. http://www.peterboro.net/~wolfz
Does anyone know who I get in touch with about the hunting show coming up in September?
Posted by Bob on August 20, 1999 at 21:23:01:
Here's another Ontario web page for you guys and gals to check out. http://www.peterboro.net/~wolfz
Posted by Gavin Clark on August 20, 1999 at 17:27:51:
Now I have recently thought about hunting in stands in the middle of a planted feild. I personally think that it is hunting as in the sport(shooting an animal), but I think it is not really hunting. Now I have come up with arguments for both sides such as, you need to find a good spot to put the stand, and what type of stand etc. But on foot not only do you have to find a good spot you need to follow tracks, scratches, hair and other signs of life. I would like to hear your opinions.
Posted by doug on August 18, 1999 at 12:19:55:
In Reply to: portable tree stands?????? posted by Joe on August 15, 1999 at 22:31:54:
I have my own plan for a tree stand but it's not portable and it doesn't have a seat so it's not very good for long waits. I would also like to get some info on light portable tree stands
Posted by Kevin on August 18, 1999 at 12:16:54:
In Reply to: Re: Waterfowl posted by Kern on August 18, 1999 at 11:51:27:
Plenty of geese in the Sault area as usual and the local duck population looks better than last year.I have the 10th booked off from work and I`ll be out there at day break! Get a little practice in before opening day!
Posted by Kern on August 18, 1999 at 11:51:27:
In Reply to: Waterfowl posted by Nick on August 18, 1999 at 10:12:19:
Hey Nick, Most fields around me have been cut already and it didnt take long for the geese to move in. Looked like about 200 when I drove by yesterday. Over the weekend past I had several large flocks buzz the house in the morning and evening. Its certainly getting close :)
Posted by Nick on August 18, 1999 at 10:12:19:
Well I went out and got my waterfowl permit today ! I have been seeing a lot of waterfowl in my hunting areas and we began scouting for other areas for geese. Even though the fields are not yet cut its nice to know you have a place to hunt come time the fields are cut !! I'm also starting to make some more goose silos. I made about a dozen last year but was not sure how they would work but the geese landed right beside them so I guess they worked !! Has anyone else been out scouting for waterfowl and starting to get that itch now that the trees are startnig to turn a bit ??
Nick
Posted by Stewart Duncan on August 16, 1999 at 10:00:56:
In Reply to: DEER STANDS posted by Chris on February 04, 1999 at 20:37:05:
looking for a fiberglass deer stands
Posted by Joe on August 15, 1999 at 22:31:54:
Im looking for plans to build a portable tree stand for bow hunting. any help would be great. thanks Joe
Posted by steve on August 15, 1999 at 00:48:40:
In Reply to: Wanted: Bolt action 30-06 posted by Braden on June 29, 1999 at 11:22:34:
how about a savage 110-e (30-06)with scope(Bushnell Sportview) and a hell of a great weapons case? I will trade for a great pistol or cash equavalant. What say you?
Posted by steve on August 15, 1999 at 00:44:55:
In Reply to: HANDGUNS FOR SALE posted by MIKE on April 18, 1999 at 08:27:13:
I have a savage 110-E with a bushnell scope and a hell of a nice case to match. Need a good "pistol" to trade. Am generous and need the trade for cash or pistol.
Posted by Steven R. Sisk on August 15, 1999 at 00:39:51:
In Reply to: Re: 30-06 posted by Steve Redgwell on December 28, 1998 at 20:05:52:
This is a Model# E4575682, 110E. It has a scope (Bushnell Sportview, and has a canvas and leather (outside) and has a flease style inside of the case. It is in excellent condition. I always maintain my weapons (military training). asking $300 plus.
Posted by BANDIT on August 12, 1999 at 00:37:27:
In Reply to: Don't expect my support!! posted by Fischer on December 01, 1998 at 08:53:23:
I am the proud first time owner of a staffordshire terrier "pit bull" and have yet to get a charge or a stiffy. FAGGET!
Posted by Hunter1 on August 10, 1999 at 21:27:33:
In Reply to: Re: tags posted by Bob on August 10, 1999 at 10:40:05:
I doubt that if one of your "hunters" got a tag and then could not come that you would not use it. Leave the hunting to the real hunters, let the rest of us have a fair chance.
Posted by Rick Teal on August 10, 1999 at 21:05:52:
In Reply to: Re: tags posted by Bob on August 10, 1999 at 10:26:23:
Bob:
I think you need a little remedial arithmetic.
How do three tags in 17 years add up to 75%? Its more like 18%, and one of those (the first) was an archery tag. Also, the 2 tags in three years were the result of 23 applications by myself and the rest of my gang - more like 9%.
When we realized that other gangs were doing what you advocate, we discussed it, and decided to increase the size of the gang instead, but found that 11 guys in camp were too many.
Since the success ratio then dropped below 10% even an 11 man gang wasn't guaranteed a bull tag. We have started dropping the size of the gang, and are now down to 7 or 8 hunters.
As to the number of available tags, we now have almost twice the number of bull tags available that were up for grabs in zone 47 at the start of the draw system.
Posted by SERGE on August 10, 1999 at 14:17:48:
If anyone here hasn`t had the chance, you should visit the Ontario Bowhunting Conference, pretty good and you get to meet other Ontatio hunters. Here`s the address...enjoy. http://www.bowsite.net/registry/regional/conference/threads.cfm?state=ON
Posted by Bob on August 10, 1999 at 10:40:05:
In Reply to: Re: tags posted by John Y Cannuck on August 10, 1999 at 06:43:02:
What are they going to charge me with ... spending extra license money (seems to me that this is probably one of the ideas behind this lottery system). If you remember back a few years ago, you could apply for an antlerless deer tag WITHOUT having to purchase a license first.
How many people do you think did this, then subsequently found out that they didn't get a tag and probably didn't buy a license or go hunting????
You don't think that maybe the MNR noticed a big dropoff in license revenues do you and came out with their new phone in/must purchase a license first approach (which I totally agree with) ???
Anyways, I would really like to know what I am doing ILLEGAL as I would most definitely cease and decist if this was so (I value my hunting privelidges too much to throw it away for something so stupid as buying too many LEGAL licenses).
You might not have noticed that NO WHERE did I say that we were using this supposed tag without the RIGHTFUL owner of this tag being present. That is the whole purpose behind this exercise ... gamble the extra license money and hope that one of the guys who is going draws the tag ... and if he isn't ... we couldn't legally use the tag now could we???
If you know of a better system (by no means do I think that this lottery system is perfect BECAUSE OF SITUATIONS LIKE THIS) maybe you should make your thoughts known as to how to improve it ... rather than telling me I'm going to be charged for doing something that is not illegal by any means of your imagination.
We await your suggested "improvements" to the system.
Posted by Bob on August 10, 1999 at 10:26:23:
In Reply to: Re: tags posted by Rick Teal on August 09, 1999 at 23:35:16:
To quote you from your message further down the board that I hadn't seen yet ...
"I got a bull tag as well. This is 2 out of the last 3 years after a 13 year drought. Such is the luck of the draw."
Now to quote you from your message in this thread ...
"I've hunted in zone 47 every year since the separate moose seasons started. Before the group application system was introduced there used to be a 30 to 40 per cent success rate in the draws. Since the group applications were introduced the success rate has declined steadily to the point where it is now less than 10%."
Pal ... with "luck" like yours (75% as opposed to eveyone else's less than 10%) you should be buying lotto 649 tickets on the side.
Seems to me you got nothin' to complain about as far as the "group application" system goes ... seems to me someone who gets tags 3 out of 4 years should be singing the praises of this system. After all you've gone from the less than 10% average ... well exceeding your OLD 30-40 % average ... and are now cruising along at a whopping 75% average. Sounds like you should call the MNR and complain that this "lottery" system is treating you "unfairly harsh".
Maybe I'm missing something in the translation ... or is it possible you've found a new system to beat /stack the odds in your favour????
I would guess that someone with "ethics" like yourself has already phoned the MNR and requested that your tag be redistributed to someone who used to have your type of luck ... after all ... they would maybe like a tag just once every 2 or 3 years ... what d'ya say ....?????
Posted by Bob on August 10, 1999 at 10:02:47:
In Reply to: Re: tags posted by Rick Teal on August 09, 1999 at 23:35:16:
Did you ever look back and see that the number of moose tags available has probably been cut since "the good old days". Where we used to hunt a tag was guaranteed if you were in pool 1 pick 1 to each hunter. There was also a good chance that you could get a tag being in pool 2 pick 1. Then the "big cut" came and the tag numbers dropped from 200 bull tags down to 60 and 90 cow tags down to 20 (this happened around about 1997/8) (WMU 11A) ... this has a lot more to do with it than "extra licenses" probably ever do. If you care to READ your regulations/fact sheet ... the MNR (yes the MNR) claim that YOUR chances have INCREASED since the group application system ... maybe a little research on your part might show that this also happened (as it did across most of Ontario) before you go blaming everyone and everything for your "bad luck".
Posted by Kern on August 10, 1999 at 08:20:27:
In Reply to: Re: tags posted by John Y Cannuck on August 10, 1999 at 06:43:02:
Before you guys get yer rope out, check the regs...although this practice may be unethical, and unfair, I doubt it is illegal unless i misses something while reading the regs. Perhaps a MNR rep would like to comment???
Posted by John Y Cannuck on August 10, 1999 at 06:43:02:
In Reply to: Re: tags posted by Rick Teal on August 09, 1999 at 23:35:16:
Well said Rick. I am fully aware that this kind of crap goes on in a lot of camps. That does not make it legal, ethical or fair. If the ministry finds out what is going on, charges will follow. Personally I put these people in the same basket as the poachers.
Posted by The Blaze Orange Crusader on August 10, 1999 at 01:16:20:
In Reply to: Re: The Elusive Mangela posted by ExoticHunter on August 10, 1999 at 00:30:28:
Unfortunately, my experiences with this "Mangela" were not so uneventful.
I am a guide working in Central and South American regions that these fine men enlisted to show them the ropes of these little-explored areas, and also to communicate with any natives if need be. As they were setting up camp, I decided to search for some kindling for a fire. I couldn't have wandered more than 20 yards from the camp, picking up twigs and leaves the entire way, when I spotted what appeared to be some sort of small opening or alcove. The explorer in me took over at that point, and I made a decision to creep in for a closer look--a decision I would later regret. Setting the twigs off to the side, I crawled as far as I could into the small entrance and struck a match against a large rock. What else did I see but a trio of small, grey, almost fox-like creatures! I pulled my trusty field guide from my pack and frantically flipped through the pages, but was unable to find an exact match. However, from my several years of work in the region, I'd overheard a rumor or two about an illusive animal known as the "Mangela". Etymology of the name is still under suspicion, but many scholars seem to agree that it's a term used by a tribe who used to thrive in the area, and it meant "omnious fangs, 5 qoatl long" (a qoatl being their primary unit of measurement, approximately equalling .56 inches). I would soon find out the accuracy of this nomenclature.
As I examined the find, presuming that these creatures were indeed Mangela, I heard something approaching swiftly. As I turned my head, I only caught a glimpse of the attacker's face, which appeared to look like that of a primate, and a more mature variation of what I'd seen in the cave. In a short second of clear thought that I had, I put two and two together and reached the conclusion that this was the mother of these infants, and I had intruded on the young Mangela's den.
Much of what occurred after that is a blur, but as I lay there helpless, the beast starting gnawing, first on my right arm, then on my chest, and then onto a leg. If this was indeed the rare Mangela, then the myths were true--this awful creature had teeth unlike any other, give or take a qoatl. I had given myself up for dead when, out of the blue, I heard a gunshot. To this day, I still do not know where that shot came from, or who pulled the trigger, but it put enough of a jolt into the critter that it took off, running through the forest with a sort of hybrid monkey-bloodhound gait, and then it disappeared.
Regaining my composure, I retrieved some pieces of cloth from my pack, wrapped them around the wounded areas of my body, picked up my twigs, and lumbered slowly back to the camp. Upon that, I swore that if I ever saw a Mangela again, I didn't care how rare they were, I wouldn't get anywhere near one. After what I went through, it just isn't worth it.
Posted by ExoticHunter on August 10, 1999 at 00:30:28:
In Reply to: The Elusive Mangela posted by WVHandgunner on August 09, 1999 at 23:49:51:
I too was a member of this illustrious expedition, and I have decided to add my own views in order to further the discussion of this unslain menace.
I was kicking back with my pal for some lunch after a morning of tracking a spectacled bear to no avail. We were discussing future strategies, when all of a sudden, out of the corner of my eye I saw a peculiar-looking grey creature reaching into the river next to our camp. I rose from my seated position immediately. The rodent had an almost baboon-like face. The animal appeared to be perhaps 25-30 yards away (I was at a different part of the camp ground than the previous poster), and I slowly crept up to examine the thing. I'd gone not ten yards when the thing's ears twitched and it turned, looked at me, then bolted into the woods.
I later found out that it was the rare Mangela. I wish I would have simply used my rifle instead of my eyes. That thing sure would make an excellent addition to my stuffed collection.
Posted by HunterBoy on August 10, 1999 at 00:11:04:
I write this in response to the Mangela post. I too have seen this weird creature before. I recently won a trip to anywhere in the world,and chose to go to South America. While there I found this hunting company that sponsers hunts in the surronding region. Well we got out aways into the "back country" and were allowed to go off with a "buddy". About an hour into the hunt my "buddy" and I came upon this animal eating a frog. It had a greyish fur and seemed to have a few other frogs around it, that it had apperently killed. We tried to approch it but it fled when we neared. Does anybody have any other info on this thing?
Posted by Rick Teal on August 10, 1999 at 00:00:18:
In Reply to: Rifles for Whitetails posted by george on July 23, 1999 at 09:35:17:
I am currently using a BLR in .358 Winchester for deer. I load 180 gr Speers down to 2500 fps. The buck I shot last year had an exit wound, so I'm re-thinking my choice of bullets, but there isn't much choice in .35 calibre (if you don't like poking little holes right through an animal). I'll keep looking.
I use the same gun for moose, but I load 200 gr Hornady spires at the max - again about 2500 fps. Unfortunately, due to failing eyesight, I had to switch to an optical red dot sight a few years ago. I much prefer open sights for hunting in Parry Sound.
Posted by Rick Teal on August 09, 1999 at 23:56:02:
In Reply to: Rifles for Whitetails posted by george on July 23, 1999 at 09:35:17:
I am currently using a BLR in .358 Winchester for deer. I load 180 gr Speers down to 2500 fps. The buck I shot last year had an exit wound, so I'm re-thinking my choice of bullets, but there isn't much choice in .35 calibre (if you don't like poking little holes right through an animal). I'll keep looking.
I use the same gun for moose, but I load 200 gr Hornady spires at the max - again about 2500 fps. Unfortunately, due to failing eyesight, I had to switch to an optical red dot sight a few years ago. I much prefer open sights for hunting in Parry Sound.
Posted by WVHandgunner on August 09, 1999 at 23:49:51:
I almost got a Mangela last week. The Mangela is a sub-species of fox that lives near the rivers in the forests of South America. I was there on a charter hunting trip with several other guys. I was sittin next to the river taking a rest, when i saw a Mangela next to the river about 30yds away. Apparently they hunt fish like bears. I didn't want to shoot it because i didn't know what it was. I later found out that not many folks see the thing, because it only leaves the forest to hunt. Also the Qechua Indians prize them for their shiney grey pelts. I wish I'd shot that damned Mangela.
Posted by Rick Teal on August 09, 1999 at 23:41:20:
In Reply to: YEEHAWW, got a COW TAG!!!!!!!!!! posted by Braden on July 28, 1999 at 23:53:41:
I got a bull tag as well. This is 2 out of the last 3 years after a 13 year drought. Such is the luck of the draw.
Good luck to everyone!
Posted by Rick Teal on August 09, 1999 at 23:35:16:
In Reply to: Re: tags posted by Bob on August 06, 1999 at 16:01:38:
Sorry Bob but I have to disagree.
I've hunted in zone 47 every year since the separate moose seasons started. Before the group application system was introduced there used to be a 30 to 40 per cent success rate in the draws. Since the group applications were introduced the success rate has declined steadily to the point wher it is now less than 10%.
This is due entirely to "hunters" doing what you are doing and having people apply who have no intention of hunting. To me this is absolutely unethical and dishonest, and if you were to ask the MNR I'm certain they would tell you its illegal as well.
It's your kind of an attitude that is destroying the moose hunt for the rest of us.
Posted by alain on August 09, 1999 at 11:59:29:
In Reply to: YEEHAWW, got a COW TAG!!!!!!!!!! posted by Braden on July 28, 1999 at 23:53:41:
Just found out one the guys in our group got a bull tag can't wait. haven't been MOOSE hunting in over 10 years (lack of tags)
Posted by ALAIN on August 09, 1999 at 11:49:25:
In Reply to: Coming to Calabogie posted by beardogs on August 08, 1999 at 13:59:10:
I hunt not to far away. What are the question you had in mind.
Posted by beardogs on August 08, 1999 at 13:59:10:
A group that I bear hunt with is coming to Calabogie in Sept.If anyone is willing to answer some questions about Calabogie and the hunting there it would be greatly appreciated.I have tried to find out all I could on the web but the info is limited.If you can help please e-mail me.Thanks
Posted by Kevin on August 07, 1999 at 23:05:08:
The duck hunters Union!
Posted by Bob on August 06, 1999 at 16:01:38:
In Reply to: Re: tags posted by honest hunter on August 06, 1999 at 12:28:01:
What is illegal about doing this ... do you not think that this isn't done amongst family members, hunt camps where older members don't hunt anymore, etc.
There is nothing illegal about it ... ethics is a different story though.
If you can't beat 'em ... join 'em.
Posted by honest hunter on August 06, 1999 at 12:28:01:
In Reply to: Re: tags posted by Bob on August 06, 1999 at 11:44:56:
I stay completely legal.
Posted by Bob on August 06, 1999 at 11:44:56:
In Reply to: tags posted by Screwed again! on August 06, 1999 at 07:06:49:
Why do you need more "guys" to go. Simply get some friends with Hunting Cards who don't hunt moose to buy moose licenses and apply as a group this way. (All you stand to loose is the extra $$ for the licenses ... worth the gamble in my books).
If you are lucky ... the tag will come out in the name of one of the"guys" who are going. If it doesn't come out that way ... convince the guy whose name it is in to go (surely you can make room for one more guy).
All of the people on the group application don't have to go. (This is one of the downfalls of this system of applying, but at least it is better than it was before).
Work it right and you can set up the rotation that you have a guaranteed group size application every year.
Might be worth a try.
Posted by Screwed again! on August 06, 1999 at 07:06:49:
5 yrs still no tag! not enough guys for a group, not enough room for more guys.
Posted by Screwed again! on August 06, 1999 at 07:06:29:
5 yrs still no tag! not enough guys for a group, not enough room for more guys.
Posted by serge on August 05, 1999 at 12:26:28:
Great site, finally an Ontario site. If you all get a chance go to The Bowsite and choose Ontario, pretty good site also for us Ontarians.
Later...SERGE P.
Posted by Serge on August 05, 1999 at 12:13:13:
Just found this site, and it sounds great. Nice to meet people from my home province. If you all get a chance to check out the Ontario Bowhunter Conference which is accessed thru The Bowsite, do it, its great and you get to meet more people..
Later all....SERGE P.
Posted by chris on August 03, 1999 at 22:08:23:
In Reply to: Re: coyote hunting tips posted by Steve Brown on May 06, 1999 at 23:04:28:
the back paw prints are slightly bigger then the front
Posted by Kern on August 03, 1999 at 21:19:57:
In Reply to: Re: After Market chokes posted by Kevin on August 02, 1999 at 22:28:51:
I looked at a Hastings rifled deer barrel for my BPS 10ga and for the same money I can buy a 870 combo!!! So for now Im shooting smooth bore with the my 10 and Ill probably pick up a 870 combo in synthetic for deer. Its a much easier gun to carry through the bush.
Posted by DEER SLAYER on August 03, 1999 at 05:59:29:
In Reply to: members deer camp posted by frank buk on July 23, 1999 at 05:09:58:
How about some more info such as costs, accomodations etc..........thanks in advance.................DEER SLAYER
Posted by Skyman on August 02, 1999 at 22:42:35:
In Reply to: calibre question posted by Sam on May 30, 1999 at 18:33:54:
That's the same WMU that I hunt and I use a .308. It's not a problem
Posted by Shooter on August 02, 1999 at 22:35:44:
In Reply to: Re: Any NFA members? posted by Kevin on July 31, 1999 at 12:25:12:
I have been wearing flo orange since i started hunting in the early 70's and no deer has ever discriminated agiainst me......
Shooter
Posted by Kevin on August 02, 1999 at 22:28:51:
In Reply to: After Market chokes posted by Kern on August 02, 1999 at 21:06:42:
Kern;I purchased an after market Hastings barrel for my 870 and I like it.I am using the improved choke for shooting #2 steel.It has a rifled bore for putting a spin on the wad and comes with a vent rib.
Posted by Skyman on August 02, 1999 at 22:17:27:
In Reply to: Rifles for Whitetails posted by george on July 23, 1999 at 09:35:17:
For a rifle I use a Browning BLR lever action in .308 Win with 180 gr Nosler partion or 165 gr boat tails. The 180's I generally use for moose and not deer though. Hopefully if I misplace the shot a little the 180 gr. Nosler partion will go through the shoulder and still drop the moose in one shot. Most deer are usually within 30 yards though and in the greens so I take my bolt action Mossberg smooth bore 12 gauge shotgun. 22 inch barrel is nice in tight bush. I usually use 00 buck. Once in a while I'll hunt down south in the farmland and will switch to sabots.
Posted by Kern on August 02, 1999 at 21:06:42:
Does anyone use aftermarket chokes?? Ive read some great things about Hastings and Rhino!! I have a extra full for the Browning, it patterns ok but I think Ild like to try another.
Posted by Paolo on August 01, 1999 at 21:35:04:
The toll free number to find out if you were successfull in this years moose lottery is 1-800-275-6657(English)and 1-800-222-9784(French).I recieved a bull tag for area 13 on Thursday so they should all be out by now.Good luck to all applicants.
Posted by Kevin on July 31, 1999 at 23:23:59:
Mange and rabies are present in Ontario. This is an Ontario coyote with mange.
Posted by Kevin on July 31, 1999 at 16:45:41:
In Reply to: Re: Migratory Regs posted by Brian on July 31, 1999 at 16:33:12:
Posted by Kevin on July 31, 1999 at 16:43:50:
In Reply to: Re: Ontario coyote posted by JUST ME on July 31, 1999 at 08:07:37:
Maybe,but it looks like a hat now.
Posted by Brian on July 31, 1999 at 16:33:12:
In Reply to: Migratory Regs posted by Kevin on July 28, 1999 at 07:25:08:
You can now get the complete 1999 Regs at the CWS site. www.ec.gc.ca/cws-sfc/cwshom_e.htm
Posted by Kevin on July 31, 1999 at 12:25:12:
In Reply to: Re: Any NFA members? posted by shooter on July 31, 1999 at 01:40:20:
Shooter; I`m a life member in the NFA and have been for several years.
I have to take exception to "giving in" because the government is going to do it anyway.
That piece of legislation is very discriminating.
I wear the orange while walking but I won`t wear it on a stand regardless of what the law is.
It`s just more "feel good" legislation that doesn`t mean a hill of beans without common sense.
Posted by JUST ME on July 31, 1999 at 08:07:37:
In Reply to: Ontario coyote posted by Kevin on July 23, 1999 at 17:17:42:
HEY.THAT LOOKS LIKE MY PET DOG THAT WENT MISSING..............HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by JUST ME on July 31, 1999 at 08:06:18:
In Reply to: YEEHAWW, got a COW TAG!!!!!!!!!! posted by Braden on July 28, 1999 at 23:53:41:
HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!! GOOD LUCK ALL
Posted by Braden on July 31, 1999 at 06:53:57:
In Reply to: Re: Rifles for Whitetails posted by Andy on July 30, 1999 at 09:54:38:
I picked up a Rem 7400 in 30-06 used in mint condition
with scope, hardcase, sling and 2 extra mags for
about $600. I couldn't be happier with the gun.
It shoots well (even with me doing the shooting)
and complete it didn't put me in the poorhouse.
If your looking for a used gun, I'd reccomend the
Remington! If you don't like autoloaders the 7600
is a really nice pump gun. I've heard they were
chambered in 35 whelan, and I'm going to be looking
for one.
Posted by Braden on July 31, 1999 at 06:47:54:
In Reply to: Re: YEEHAWW, got a COW TAG!!!!!!!!!! posted by Bob on July 30, 1999 at 23:45:11:
Patience Bob, it should be coming ( I'm hoping for you
anyhow! ) If you don't have your tag by Fridays
mail, you can check the automated system as of
August 1st. Check the hunting regs for the Number.
Good luck with the Bull Steve!
Posted by shooter on July 31, 1999 at 01:40:20:
In Reply to: Re: Any NFA members? posted by Kevin on July 27, 1999 at 23:36:26:
The hunter orange issue was a bit contentious but OFAH really did mean well. Truth be known... it was going to happen anyway by the MNR. This way, OFAH could take credit for being safety concious. You will find that if you can make good contacts inside of OFAH, either thru districts or Peterborough, you will find a very strong and caring political ally for yourself. The donations do well for all of us and is certainly appreciated by those of us who choose to hunt and fish to supplement our food. Do you have a membership in the NFA? How about that new Alliance group? Shooter
Posted by Steve Redgwell on July 31, 1999 at 00:37:29:
In Reply to: YEEHAWW, got a COW TAG!!!!!!!!!! posted by Braden on July 28, 1999 at 23:53:41:
Congratulations. I got my my bull tag for 21A. The tags are in the mail.
Safe Shooting!
Steve Redgwell
Posted by Bob on July 30, 1999 at 23:45:11:
In Reply to: YEEHAWW, got a COW TAG!!!!!!!!!! posted by Braden on July 28, 1999 at 23:53:41:
Good for you, now where is Mine?
Posted by Andy on July 30, 1999 at 09:54:38:
In Reply to: Rifles for Whitetails posted by george on July 23, 1999 at 09:35:17:
I use a 30/30 or my Remington 870 12 gauge with sabot slug through the rifled der barrel. Don't believe in Buckshot unless you are within about 40 yards max. Too many deer are found dead with moderate wounds, or are shot with crippling wounds from buckshot. Of course same can happen with a poorly placed bullet. Because I don't get shots greater than about 125 yards, I am comfortable with the 30/30, but when I am in the shotgun only zone, I lack confidence beyond 75 yards, although at the range it can group 4" at 100 yards, and hits like a 45/70 would. Lookin for a 30/06 or a 300 Win Mag for the fall Moose hunt, and would find either excellent for longer range deer shots.
Posted by Braden on July 28, 1999 at 23:53:41:
Can't wait for the upcoming moose season!!
Good luck and good hunting to all!!!!!!!!!! Braden
Posted by Kevin on July 28, 1999 at 21:00:17:
Don`t forget draw applications for antlerless deer must be submitted by August the third.
Posted by Kevin on July 28, 1999 at 11:57:10:
In Reply to: Re: Migratory Regs posted by bg on July 28, 1999 at 08:27:36:
Same as last season then, ok..thank you.
Posted by bg on July 28, 1999 at 08:27:36:
In Reply to: Migratory Regs posted by Kevin on July 28, 1999 at 07:25:08:
September 10 for the regular season. Some units (36&45) have an early season for Canada Geese (September 1-10). bg
Posted by Kevin on July 28, 1999 at 07:25:08:
Does anyone know when the Feds are going to open the migratory bird season in the northern district this year? Thanks.
Posted by Kevin on July 27, 1999 at 23:36:26:
In Reply to: Re: Any NFA members? posted by Shooter on July 27, 1999 at 22:17:51:
Hi Shooter, I was a member of the OFAH also and sent in donations to help fund the cause but when they encouraged the government to legislate the mandatory use of hunter orange I got a knot in my face and quit.Aside from that they do good work (my opinion).I hope we pick up a little suppport from other hunters in Ontario.It`s important everyone do what they can and enter the fight to put a stop to this bureaucratic garbage.
Posted by Shooter on July 27, 1999 at 22:17:51:
In Reply to: Any NFA members? posted by Kevin on July 20, 1999 at 20:24:11:
Been a member for 4 years now. Have sent them a couple hundred $$$ extra to help them with the C-68 fight and Alberta court challenge. Also OFAH member since 1986. Fed them $$$ to aid in activism as well, especially the recent Charter of Rights challenge. Shooter
Posted by Woods Water guiding on July 27, 1999 at 18:28:03:
Hello people ,
thought I would make you aware that Ontario now has one of the first Exotics and Wild Boar hunting ranch. Take a couple days from your hectic schedule anytime of the year and spend a few days in camp hunting some different game.Give us a call or e-mail us. 1-888-523-4868
Posted by Andy on August 31, 1999 at 14:37:19:
Test
Posted by Nick Ryder on July 26, 1999 at 19:15:32:
In Reply to: Re: coyote hunting tips posted by Shooter on January 17, 1999 at 03:33:02:
Any tips on who what when where and how to call
coyotes in thick woods with heavy undergrowth
and logging roads
Posted by Chuck on July 26, 1999 at 08:53:47:
In Reply to: Finally a hunting bulliton board in Canada! posted by Sue on June 17, 1999 at 18:04:57:
I could not agree more. The U.S sites were good but it's better to have a site that pertains to your own hunting area.By way of introduction I live in the Ottawa Valley and hunt deer, grouse and ducks/geese.Hunt in WMU 58 between Eganville and Dacre for those of you who know the area. Will try and contribute to this great site
Posted by DEER SLAYER on July 25, 1999 at 09:13:33:
In Reply to: Rifles for Whitetails posted by george on July 23, 1999 at 09:35:17:
I use a Ruger .44mag carbine.........very nice bush gun, light, accurate with great stopping power. I also use a Remington 879 Wingmaster pump action with slugs or double00 buckshot.........depends on what piece of bush i'm hunting.........both firearms have open sights..........the only way to hunt!!!!!!!!
Posted by DEER SLAYER on July 25, 1999 at 09:12:24:
In Reply to: Rifles for Whitetails posted by george on July 23, 1999 at 09:35:17:
I use a Ruger .44mag carbine.........very nice bush gun, light, accurate with great stopping power. I also use a Remington 879 Wingmaster pump action with sulgs or double00 buckshot.........depends on what piece of bush i'm hunting.........
Posted by Kevin on July 24, 1999 at 20:28:06:
In Reply to: Re: Rifles for Whitetails posted by Steve on July 24, 1999 at 19:27:01:
Steve, I was speaking of a shoulder shot.The 150`s won`t always put a deer down if hit in the shoulder area.
Posted by Steve on July 24, 1999 at 19:27:01:
In Reply to: Re: Rifles for Whitetails posted by Kevin on July 23, 1999 at 17:04:54:
Shot placement is very important whether you use a .270 or a .338 Win Mag. It's THE most important factor. A deer wounded with a .300 Mag is still a wounded deer. Personally, I use an XX75 2219 with a 125 grain Thunderhead. The only deer in the last 15 years I haven't harvested with a bow was taken with a 12 gauge Brenneke slug. One shot at 35 yards.
Posted by joe ehlers on July 24, 1999 at 13:02:58:
In Reply to: Game count posted by Jack on January 06, 1999 at 19:05:11:
Posted by Walter J. on July 24, 1999 at 00:43:24:
In Reply to: Re: coyote hunting tips posted by Steve on January 17, 1999 at 11:46:56:
i shoot a nice fawn in the neck. not a kill shot but enough to bring it down, then i drag it through the woods with a spotlight and wait for the damn 'yotes to come, cause they cant resist the fawn. then i shoot as many as i can and drag all the carcasses through the woods until the whole pack gets it.
Posted by Kevin on July 23, 1999 at 21:55:16:
In Reply to: Re: Rifles for Whitetails posted by Kevin on July 23, 1999 at 17:04:54:
Posted by Kern on July 23, 1999 at 21:05:41:
In Reply to: Rifles for Whitetails posted by george on July 23, 1999 at 09:35:17:
I use a 270 Rem. with 150 gr. soft point. I prefer to shoot with a scope as opposed to open sights. Ive considered getting a 300 mag myself. Also eyeing a 270 Weatherby mag, but one of my buds said Ill be eating alot of hamberger!!!
Posted by Tackleberry on July 23, 1999 at 20:32:33:
In Reply to: Rifles for Whitetails posted by george on July 23, 1999 at 09:35:17:
Hey George, You must have big bucks at long ranges for that "canon". I guess you wouldn't be tracking very far after the stot thou would you?
My self I have a sporterized 6.5 x 55 Swed. for all around, a 44Mag. Marlin Lever for bush or close range. To round it off, Remington 870 with a smoothbore rifle sighted barrel. Safe Shoooting,
Tack
Posted by Kevin on July 23, 1999 at 17:17:42:
This is a coyote I called back in March on St. Joseph Island.
I used my 788 Remington in .222 with 40grn. Sierra hollow points.
The hide damage was very minimal and the fur was in great shape for being so late in the season.
Posted by Kevin on July 23, 1999 at 17:04:54:
In Reply to: Rifles for Whitetails posted by george on July 23, 1999 at 09:35:17:
I use a Winchester model 70 / 30-06 with 150 grn. Speer flat nose bullets.Shot placement is very important.
Posted by Fischer on July 23, 1999 at 11:45:09:
In Reply to: Rifles for Whitetails posted by george on July 23, 1999 at 09:35:17:
I've got a .280 Remington. 145 gr. factory ammo. I'm hoping to use the 165 gr. for moose. Maybe next year.
Posted by george on July 23, 1999 at 09:35:17:
Just wondering what you guys use on whitetails. I use a .300 Win mag?
Posted by chuck on July 23, 1999 at 09:29:18:
In Reply to: members deer camp posted by frank buk on July 23, 1999 at 05:09:58:
Can you provide a lettle more info ie.
Cost,type of hunting(stand or drive), exact location, number of hunters, type of accomodation, accessibilty ie. car or four wheel drive
Posted by Alain on July 23, 1999 at 09:00:56:
In Reply to: members deer camp posted by frank buk on July 23, 1999 at 05:09:58:
Can I get more info?
Where abouts in zone 61?
Cost $$ ?
How many in hunt camp?
Accomodation ?
Posted by Fischer on July 23, 1999 at 08:50:53:
In Reply to: Not even one? posted by Kevin on July 22, 1999 at 12:11:49:
I check out their website often. Does that count?? I agree with you though. But I can't recall their membership app jumping out at me on the page. I look around a bit next time I'm there. I dropped my membership in the OFAH for a couple years, got it back now, though. The main reason I dropped it was that a month didn't go by without receiving another plea in the mail for more money to fight the unjust gun laws. I fully agree that they are ridiculous laws but, frankly, I got a bit tired of what seemed to be tilting at windmills. Enough already, I'll donate what I can, when I can.
Posted by frank buk on July 23, 1999 at 05:09:58:
need new members for deer camp in zone 61 hunt moose,deer,bear,coyotes, rifle hunt or bow hunt. reply for more info exp hunters or rookies invited.
Posted by Kevin on July 22, 1999 at 12:11:49:
In Reply to: Any NFA members? posted by Kevin on July 20, 1999 at 20:24:11:
That`s kind of pathetic, but typical of most Canadians.
Posted by Fischer on July 21, 1999 at 16:08:47:
I almost croaked!!! http://www.brunching.com/features/feature-viciousvegan.html
Posted by Kevin on July 20, 1999 at 20:24:11:
http://nfa.ca/
Posted by Tackleberry on July 20, 1999 at 17:09:30:
In Reply to: M.Lastman wants to ban guns in TO posted by John Bacon on July 16, 1999 at 23:18:49:
Well if anyone else has ever seen Mel in action when talking about an issue of concern in the community you will see just how mellow dramatic he can be. Like somebdy indicated, when the camera is pointed at him he works off the cuff. Watch him carefully, he stutters desparately searching for the words. Nothing like using enflamitory statements when he doesn't even know the details of the incident.
That said, as a LEO and obviously a shooter, I am appauled that he would grandstand infront of the ER that is attemting to saw a fellow officer's life. As for his statement about banning them, it is typical of a none shooter to say this. I just realized that anything else I say will be redundant and it should be said to the person accountable for such a public statement. My suggestion is to be careful with any repley or statement. This is where the anti's disregard the unfactual statements of a ranting mayor but pick a part a "gun nuts" carefully worded statement. Safe Shooting,Tack
Posted by Fischer on July 20, 1999 at 09:22:10:
Check out this URL http://www.canoe.ca/Columnists/jenkinson.html
Posted by joe on July 19, 1999 at 23:04:24:
isnt this getting to be a royal pain, write your M.P,
bye only from the INDEPENDENTS
make the big guys hurt
Posted by Kern on July 19, 1999 at 14:54:11:
In Reply to: Re: M.Lastman wants to ban guns in TO posted by Steve on July 17, 1999 at 12:09:05:
Mel really knows what to say and when to say it. Especially when a camera is being pointed at him. I also wouldnt dismiss the idea to quickly though....you only have to look at the shooting incident involving children in scottland last year to see how far a govt will go to appease the ignorant masses!!!! All civilian ownership of handguns was banned and all citizens required to turn in their property to the police for distruction. This included handguns used for competitive shooting!!
They are still trying to figure out the compensation for property turned in.
Posted by Kevin on July 18, 1999 at 09:36:35:
In Reply to: Mel sounds like an ASS posted by Kevin on July 17, 1999 at 00:29:23:
From the CFD: Thank you so much for "outing" the real motivation of gun control
advocates such as you : complete prohibition and confiscation. The
disservice you rendered to minister McLellan who claims C-68 "is not
about confiscation" can only be the gain of everyone opposed to C-68.
Posted by Steve on July 17, 1999 at 12:09:05:
In Reply to: M.Lastman wants to ban guns in TO posted by John Bacon on July 16, 1999 at 23:18:49:
Yeah, I saw that on the news the other day. CITY TV had a big discussion and lots of viewers who know absolutely nothing about anything chipped in that no one should own guns in Toronto. The host, Lara something-or-other, kept agreeing that no one needs a gun for protection in Toronto. They're missing the entire point, as usual. Any low-life scumbag who would shoot a police officer in the face is obviously not going to subscribe to any laws or registration processes regarding firearms and he certainly isn't going to respect a firearms ban. We all know that handguns have had to be registered and strictly controlled for 30 years now, yet it doesn't stop the creeps from illegally owning and possessing them. Thank goodness Chief Boothby and Minister Tsobuchi are offering opinions about mandatory, no plea bargain, jail terms for those who use firearms in a crime. The gutless Liberal federal government will totally ignore this, of course, and increase their efforts to legislate legitimate gun owners. Lastman should stick to topics he knows about - like selecting bad hairpieces.
Posted by Kevin on July 17, 1999 at 00:29:23:
In Reply to: M.Lastman wants to ban guns in TO posted by John Bacon on July 16, 1999 at 23:18:49:
John; Sounds like Lastman has no respect for the police or military.He wants to ban guns in Toronto like they did in Washington DC where they have one of the leading homicide rates in the U.S., Mel sounds like an ASS, does he really think criminals will stop carrying their illegal weapons if he decides to ban them, it`s even too stupid to laugh at!
Posted by John Bacon on July 16, 1999 at 23:18:49:
An article in the Friday July 16 Scarborough mirror quotes Mel Lastman as stating that he would like to ban guns in Toronto.
The actual quote was, "We (council) can't ban anything - we're not in a position to ban guns. But I'd love to see the federal government do something to ban guns. I will raise it with the prime minister. I don't respect people who have guns."
I believe Mel Lastman's email address is: mayor_lastman@city.toronto.on.ca
Let me know if the email is incorrect.
Posted by Kevin on July 15, 1999 at 12:22:21:
In Reply to: Re: It Will Be Beat posted by Kern on July 15, 1999 at 07:50:43:
Kern; It`s part rights and part freedom.Property rights is just one aspect that is being threatened.
Posted by Kern on July 15, 1999 at 07:50:43:
In Reply to: It Will Be Beat posted by Kevin on July 14, 1999 at 20:58:55:
What part of the Charter Of Rights are you talking about Kevin?? I often hear that phrase come up when ever gun legislation is being discussed. Im as much against this foolish law as the next guy and see it for what it is, which is just another way for the govt. to generate revenue.
Posted by Tackleberry on July 14, 1999 at 23:27:18:
In Reply to: It Will Be Beat posted by Kevin on July 14, 1999 at 20:58:55:
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Posted by Kevin on July 14, 1999 at 20:58:55:
In Reply to: Re:It Will Be Beat posted by Tackleberry on July 13, 1999 at 17:08:57:
Well Tack; We know the legislation is there to appease the bleeding hearts, you can`t instill common sense into total idiots.You can educate to a certain degree and after that the responsibility lies with the individual. You can`t legislate criminals and when the government enacts laws that have little or no merit they create more criminals. Hunters for the most part in Ontario take their firearms out a few times each year over the course of a couple of weeks and firearm ownership isn`t paramount in their minds but they are neglecting the most important issue and that is their Charter Of Rights. The poor response to this site is partial proof of that.What will defeat this legislation is the heavily laden bureaucracy and expense that will suffocate it, that and the court challenges thanks to the NFA, OFAH and other dedicated organizations.
Posted by Tackleberry on July 13, 1999 at 17:08:57:
In Reply to: Re:It Will Be Beat posted by Kevin on July 08, 1999 at 21:10:00:
Hey Kevin, the only problem with that cynical comment is for those that do not have an understanding of the law it is very miss leading. The safe storage laws, ENACTED IN 1992 BY THE PC GOVN'T, require a "firearm to be store ina safe and secure manner". This means deactivated/dismanteled with the major component of the firing mechanism stored elsewhere, OR made inoperable by a secure locking device OR locked in a secure container (not easily broken into).
I taught a class once were a student, semi retired living on a working farm, kids grown and produced grandkids, has neiboughs with kids that are over alot (when "he" is not there) AND had a loaded rifle behind the bedroom door for "pretitor control". "Well there's nothing in the chamber, just the magazine." I hear you, believe me, I hear you!! The problem, is that a piece of legislation that "legislates common scenes" will create a response such as yours. When he mentioned it, the questions I asked ( the list above) generated a pail blank expression. At the next class he told me that it was unloaded and had followed a few suggestions for storage.
Shoot Safe
Tack
Posted by bob on July 12, 1999 at 06:37:14:
In Reply to: Re: archery posted by joe on July 08, 1999 at 00:04:03:
You asked the question and I got you to answer mine instead.
have you been to the bowsite? www.bowsite.com? strictly bowhunters, but American.
Posted by Ed on July 09, 1999 at 13:52:04:
In Reply to: Re: Where do you hunt and what do you hunt? posted by Paolo on June 13, 1999 at 00:57:25:
I duck hunt north of Kingston, deer hunt during the rifle season near Westport Ont., deer hunt with x-bow on Wolfe Island. I also make the occasional trip to Ignace, Ont. for moose hunting.
Posted by Kevin on July 08, 1999 at 21:10:00:
In Reply to: Beating Gun Control posted by John Bacon on July 08, 1999 at 20:18:04:
John; Compliance is quickly becoming a thing of the past when it comes to firearm legislation.The recreational firearms community is slowly waking up to this bureaucratic mess.There use to be a time when criminals were charged for breaking into a home and stealing a firearm, it has since shifted over to laying charges against the home owner,... and they think we`re going to comply...HA
Posted by John Bacon on July 08, 1999 at 20:18:04:
Read John Kerr's column in the Sun today (Thursday July 8). Appearantly firearms can be leased without incurring the $25.00 transfer charge.
'"Working within the law, firearms users in Canada can obtain firearms without paper trails or notifying government," CILA executive director Tony Bernardo said.'
Maybe everybody can lease their firearms to beat the gun control law.
Posted by Kevin on July 08, 1999 at 17:56:41:
In Reply to: Saskatchewan Spring Bear article posted by Fischer on July 08, 1999 at 14:53:23:
Thanks for posting the article, I always get a kick out of the Humane Society adding their 2 pennies worth of information, they kill millions of domestic dogs and cats monthly across Canada and the U.S.
Posted by Fischer on July 08, 1999 at 14:53:23:
Note: the fact that baiting bears is illegal in BC doesn't stop ARA's from trying to stop the hunt there, too. From an article: SASK. RESIDENTS OPPOSE SPRING BEAR HUNT: IFAW POLL
July 7, 1999
The Regina Leader-Post A6
Thoburn, Mark
The International Fund for Animal Welfare (IFAW) released poll results Tuesday which, according to this story, revealed the majority of Saskatchewan residents are opposed to the spring bear hunt. Of a survey of 400 residents, the IFAW's poll showed 55% of those with an opinion felt
the hunt should be reduced or eliminated. When asked about the orphaning of cubs as a result of hunting, 82% of respondents with an opinion were cited as saying that it was completely unacceptable. Rob Sinclair of the
IFAW was cited as saying that hunters have a hard time distinguishing the gender of bears in the spring and as a consequence, cubs suffer. Joyce Lorenz, president of the Saskatchewan Wildlife Federation was cited as saying that hunters just don't shoot mother bears, adding, "Bear hunters
can tell the difference between male and female bears. Female bears approach more cautiously. Mothers never leave their cubs behind." Sinclair was further cited as saying that his organization also objects to baiting bears with food. The practice, which is banned in British Columbia, is designed to eliminate the natural sensibilities of bears, he
said, making them easy targets. This story further explained that the IFAW poll also revealed that 78% of those surveyed disapproved of hunt farms located in Saskatchewan. The 14 farms located in Saskatchewan, which allow the shooting of domesticated
wildlife inside of fenced compounds, have surfaced over the past two years, according to Sinclair. He was quoted as saying, "Saskatchewan will soon have the third or fourth largest jurisdiction of hunt farms in North America." Cathy Lauritsen of the Regina Humane Society was cited as saying that she was concerned about the ethics of farm hunting, adding, "The animals are not on their own turf, they don't have the usual sporting chance that (wild) animals have. It's like shooting fish in a barrel."
Because animals on hunt farms, which include elk, buffalo and wild boar, have been classified as livestock, Lorenz was cited as saying that she could not object to their treatment, adding, "You can't tell farmers how to disperse of their animals, adding she did not believe the animals were a domestic species. " It's like butchering beef." Lorenz was cited as questioning that the accuracy of the IFAW survey, stating the organization was an animal rights advocacy group. Sinclair was cited as saying that his organization is not opposed to hunting unless it threatens the survival of a species, has unintended effects, is
unnecessarily violent or prevents fair chase rules.
Posted by Fischer on July 08, 1999 at 14:48:57:
In Reply to: Hey Harris posted by Kevin on July 08, 1999 at 13:01:24:
To be fair, Keven, I don't think the Manitoba gov't is going into an election, plus they have the benefit of 20/20 after the uproar in Ont. Besides, even though I've called Manitoba myself, more people will speak out if their against something than if they're for it. I doubt the Manitoba poll results will favour the hunt, particularly if there is a lot of misinformation spread. See my new post about the Saskatchewan hunt.
Posted by Kevin on July 08, 1999 at 13:01:24:
You have to give credit to the Manitoba government for at least consulting the people!
Posted by Kevin on July 08, 1999 at 12:12:59:
In Reply to: Tried it, couldn't get an answer! No msg. posted by Fischer on July 08, 1999 at 10:01:11:
Thanks, try this from outside Manitoba and don`t access the automated dialer, the gal will answer after a short wait and transfer your call to the Fish and Game Dept. where they will take the information.
1-800-214-6497 (toll-free)
Posted by Fischer on July 08, 1999 at 10:01:11:
In Reply to: It`s time to get off your ass! posted by Kevin on July 07, 1999 at 11:43:18:
No message
Posted by joe on July 08, 1999 at 00:04:03:
In Reply to: Re: archery posted by bob on July 07, 1999 at 23:20:58:
Yes I suppose it can get to be, I bought only the basics ( bow, accessery package which consisted of arrow rest, bow sling, fibre optic pin sights, peep sight. I alsogot a release and 6 arrow with target points. ) cost of $527.90
now to get lots of practice and Ill only have to purchase broad points for hunting.
or go used for about 1/2 the price but watch out for damaged equipment. start repairing and you can invest as much as a new bow
Posted by bob on July 07, 1999 at 23:20:58:
In Reply to: Re: archery posted by Joe on July 05, 1999 at 22:32:23:
Are you finding archery to be an expensive hobby?
Kind of like gun buying?
Posted by bob on July 07, 1999 at 23:18:26:
In Reply to: It`s time to get off your ass! posted by Kevin on July 07, 1999 at 11:43:18:
Done and thanks for the info.
We must stand together, or the anti's win
Posted by Kevin on July 07, 1999 at 11:43:18:
The premier's office in Manitoba is conducting a survey of who is for or against
the spring bear hunt. Interested parties are requested to phone 945-3714 or toll
free 1-800-283-8069. All you have to do is indicate whether are in favour or
against the hunt. This does not just affect bear hunters. It will have a significant impact on the
future of the entire firearm community regardless of where you live. Make the
the Premier understand that the firearms community takes this matter seriously
and make that phone call. Please pass this information along asap.
Posted by Steve Redgwell on July 06, 1999 at 16:04:52:
The page seems to be running smoothly now...at least until sympatico does their next maintenance thing. Load Data is now available for Cast Bullets, 125/150/174/180/Match/215 Grain bullets. There is a Bullet Talk section and a new feature that will appear once a month - 303 Talk. This month is Lee Enfield Chambers & Headspace.
Please feel free to visit it at http://www3.sympatico.ca/shooters/303Page.htm Safe Shooting!
Steve Redgwell
Posted by Joe on July 05, 1999 at 22:32:23:
In Reply to: Re: archery posted by Bob on July 02, 1999 at 07:15:06:
so far it seems to be great, its my first bow , so its also a learnig experience.I have had great support from the PSE dealer where i purchase.this bow so I am told , is very forgiving , has a 75% let off. ( which is great for us beginners).
Posted by Steve Redgwell on July 05, 1999 at 14:54:48:
In Reply to: Re: New 303 Page posted by Tackleberry on July 04, 1999 at 09:02:00:
It's there! The server was going through maintenance or upgrading over the past week. I emailed sympatico and they told me the trouble was only temporary. http://www3.sympatico.ca/shooters/303Page.htm
Posted by Chris Diavolitsis on July 05, 1999 at 13:54:15:
In Reply to: Re: Spring Bear Hunt posted by Peter Diavolitsis on January 28, 1999 at 11:00:51:
I think that Pete Diavolitsis guy is a real wacko,
Posted by Tackleberry on July 04, 1999 at 09:02:00:
In Reply to: New 303 Page posted by Steve Redgwell on June 20, 1999 at 02:05:45:
Hey Steve, I went looking for the site a couple of times with no luck. Can you help!! Thanks, Tack
Posted by Bob on July 02, 1999 at 07:15:06:
In Reply to: archery posted by joe on June 30, 1999 at 23:32:53:
I have not bought my bow yet, how do you like yours??
Posted by joe on June 30, 1999 at 23:32:53:
I just purchased a PSE Nova V4, looking for any tips, web sites etc.
Posted by Ludwig on June 29, 1999 at 16:46:30:
In Reply to: Where do you hunt and what do you hunt? posted by Bob on June 12, 1999 at 11:46:07:
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Posted by Kevin on June 29, 1999 at 11:41:18:
In Reply to: Wanted: Bolt action 30-06 posted by Braden on June 29, 1999 at 11:22:34:
Canadian Access to Firearms is a good source of used firearms in Canada.The subscription rate is $25 for twelve issues.
(email)firearms@hypertech.yk.ca
Posted by Braden on June 29, 1999 at 11:22:34:
In reasonable condition with or w/o scope.
My friend is looking for one, he has a valid FAC.
Thanks for your reply's!
Posted by Kevin on June 27, 1999 at 13:13:22:
In Reply to: Black bears again! posted by Kevin on June 20, 1999 at 23:49:59:
Police in Sudbury shot and killed an orphaned black bear cub that caused a motor vehicle accident over the weekend.
Posted by Howard buddah Barber on June 24, 1999 at 22:00:55:
In Reply to: Re: Bowfishing posted by robert Keens on June 24, 1999 at 01:33:07:
I STARTED out with your standard drum and found it useable but very slow between shots. The drum costs about fifteen dollars. I upgraded to the 808 and found it very good but upgraded again to the retriever and found it to be the best. I do a lot of bowfishing and love the retriever. cost is about 59 bucks from muzzy products. Muzzy make a lot of really good stuff Good Luck
buddah
Posted by Fischer on June 24, 1999 at 08:55:04:
Here is Peter Worthington's article from today's Sun http://www.canoe.ca/Columnists/worthington.html June 24, 1999
Firearm registry will never prevent crime
By PETER WORTHINGTON
Toronto Sun
Sometime in the mid-1970s, when Pierre Trudeau's Liberals were intent on gun controls - registration leading to the unadmitted but clearly intended eventual confiscation - I was on a TV panel with then-solicitor general Warren Allmand.
While I adamantly opposed registration, he was for it (sincerely, I believe now but wasn't sure then, because his integrity and courage have since proven beyond dispute in defence of falsely extradited and wrongly convicted Leonard Peltier).
The rationale for gun registration then was, basically, what it is now - that guns result in crime, murders, suicides, accidents, violence, etc. Gun-prone America with its violence and homicides, was (still is) used as an argument for limiting, registering, even confiscating all firearms.
My argument was that we already had stringent restrictions on handgun ownership, and that registering rifles and shotguns was unnecessary because they had little relevance to either crime or violence. The cruncher for my argument was, I felt, Switzerland, where by law every adult male is required to keep a gun, yet the Swiss are the most crime-free, least violent people of Europe, if not Earth.
My Swiss example wasn't refuted, but was ignored.
Gun controls were eventually dropped by the Trudeau government when the costs of registration vastly exceeded presumed benefits. As we now know, the issue has been revived into law - Bill C-68.
Already, the originally estimated cost of $85 million spread over five years to register an estimated seven million rifles and shotguns the government figures are owned by three million Canadians, has soared to real costs of hundreds of millions, heading for $1 billion. Law-abiding gun owners will be instant criminals if they fail to register their weapons by Jan. 1, 2003.
Today, Reform MP Garry Breitkreuz is a one-man wrecking crew when it comes to federal gun registration. He's noted that in the first three months of registration the justice department processed an average 360 firearms a day. This is a far cry from the 7,000 registrations per day needed to meet the Jan. 1, 2003, deadline.
But wait, it gets worse. Gun people estimate seven million Canadians own 21 million firearms - not three million owning seven million. If true, this means an average 21,000 firearms per day have to be processed if the 2003 deadline is to be met.
Why are the feds so fixated on gun registration?
It can't be murder, since the murder ratio has been constant in Canada over the last 50 years, and handguns used in crime are rarely registered and almost all are illegally owned - as in the U.S.
Back to Switzerland. In a recent article in the Wall Street Journal, lawyer and author Stephen Halbrook writes of visiting Switzerland and being surprised that guns are everywhere - adorning restaurant walls, being carried on the streets by kids and grannies. Shooting clubs abound and rifle competitions are held for schoolkids, age 12.
"Switzerland has more firepower per person than any country in the world," Halbrook writes, "yet it is one of the safest places to be."
In 1997 Switzerland (population 7.5 million) had 97 murders or attempted murders that involved firearms. Its homicide rate is 1.2 per 100,000 (compared to Canada's 1.9). As for robberies, one in five involves firearms - almost half of which are by "resident foreigners" rather than Swiss nationals. In Geneva in 1993, police recorded not one armed robbery.
In fact, it was Switzerland's policy of having all citizens armed and knowledgeable about guns that influenced the U.S. Constitution's Second Amendment: "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed."
Pre-war Nazis had strict gun controls and registration - which helped when the time came for confiscation. It's a matter of record that when Hitler contemplated invading Switzerland in World War II, the reality that every Swiss male owned a rifle and was a crack shot was a factor in Germany forgoing any thoughts of occupation.
Since its founding in 1291, Swiss freedom has depended on its armed citizenry rather than a standing army. American Patrick Henry ("Give me liberty or give me death") was especially impressed at the Swiss obsession with independence without a vibrant president or big army. Switzerland was a role model for America, then moving toward independence from Britain.
Deterring crime is as much an attitude as law enforcement.
From the American experience, we know that in high crime states, laws that allow citizens to carry concealed weapons have resulted in a drastic drop in crime and gun offences.
Experience in other places (Britain and Australia) indicate that with firearms registration/confiscation, gun violence and crimes rise; most gun crimes involve illegal handguns.
Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Ontario and the Northwest Territories have been joined by New Brunswick and Nunavut in opposing the federal legislation - Bill C-68 - which is before the Supreme Court of Canada. One hopes common sense, often a rarity, prevails over political posturing.
Letters to the editor should be sent to editor@sunpub.com.
Posted by Sam on June 24, 1999 at 07:01:43:
In Reply to: Re: Feds' gun registry 'a farce' posted by Kevin on June 23, 1999 at 23:04:33:
from what i've read, it's more likely a financial decision. The police simply do not have enough money to operate, (it seems everybody has this problem) and they probably think that scrapping C-68 would free up ALOT of much needed cash
Posted by robert Keens on June 24, 1999 at 01:33:07:
In Reply to: Re: Bowfishing posted by Jerry Burton on February 13, 1999 at 11:30:23:
I use a zebco 808. They run about 35 dollars, and are hard to beat.
They can handle just about anything. We have landed fish up to 120lbs on them.
Posted by Steve Redgwell on June 24, 1999 at 01:21:24:
In Reply to: Re: Feds' gun registry 'a farce' posted by Kevin on June 23, 1999 at 23:04:33:
ah...but there's a difference between hoping for something and situational reality. I've no doubt that politics played a part. The executive helped influence the ordinary members. Regardless, I trust that they'll vote the way they see the current situation - the evidence is in :) - but continue to hope that these types of crime will disappear. i think the police know that education is the best way to go. Safe Shooting! Steve
Posted by Kevin on June 23, 1999 at 23:04:33:
In Reply to: Re: Feds' gun registry 'a farce' posted by Steve Redgwell on June 23, 1999 at 20:46:01:
>they probably didn't speak up before because they hoped it would help reduce violent crime ...*** Can`t be, handguns have been registered since the 30`s and it hasn`t prevented the criminal misuse of handguns.I think the decision had to be politically motivated.
Posted by Steve Redgwell on June 23, 1999 at 20:46:01:
In Reply to: Re: Feds' gun registry 'a farce' posted by Steve on June 23, 1999 at 19:37:59:
Steve, they probably didn't speak up before because they hoped it would help reduce violent crime. As far as an intellectual response to those that are finally beginning to see the hopelessness of C-68, I offer up an eloquent, "well, duhhh..."
Posted by Kevin on June 23, 1999 at 20:34:58:
In Reply to: Re: Feds' gun registry 'a farce' posted by Steve on June 23, 1999 at 19:37:59:
It was the Republicans that stopped that Bill in the U.S.
I think Canadians are responsible for their own destiny and as long as apathy is running rampant there isn`t much hope.The Conservatives and NDP are virtually dead and people continue to vote for them splitting the vote between Reform and the Liberals which allows the Liberals to stand on the side lines and they end up winning the election.Here in Sault Ste. Marie the people just voted in an NDP provincial representative and the NDP doesn`t even exist as an official party because they didn`t get enough seats across the province.I sent this Web Master a link to the NFA and they haven`t bothered posting it, don`t wait for someone else to fight your battle against the Liberals, get involved today. http://nfa.ca/
Posted by Steve on June 23, 1999 at 19:37:59:
In Reply to: Feds' gun registry 'a farce' posted by Sam Bellamy on June 23, 1999 at 16:45:50:
This is something every law-abiding gun owner in Canada has known for some time. Why the hell didn't the Police Association speak up on this BEFORE the bill became law? While it's certainly welcome, their vote of non-confidence might have made the difference when the bill was in the planning stage. I would bet anything that it's too late now. When has any politician ever back pedalled and cancelled something they started, even if it's wrong and unjust? Don't count on Chretien and his band of strong-arm bullies to back down on this one any time soon. I'm still looking forward to being a criminal and maybe doing two years when I refuse to register my shotgun. At least the American House of Representatives deep-sixed an unjust gun law down there last week. They still value individual rights and freedoms, not like our Liberals.
Posted by Sam Bellamy on June 23, 1999 at 16:45:50:
Well it looks llike the story is finely beginning to be told. Check out this website http://www.canoe.ca/TorontoSun/front1.html The ontario cops are finely saying what they knew all along. Good for them
Posted by Kevin on June 22, 1999 at 19:31:41:
In Reply to: Re: Welcome! posted by Sue on June 22, 1999 at 18:02:54:
Sue, I just realized who you are, this is Kevin from the trappers convention in North Bay.
Posted by Sue on June 22, 1999 at 18:02:54:
In Reply to: Welcome! posted by Kevin on June 17, 1999 at 18:43:53:
Its too buggy to hunt right now. I go hunting with
my husband usually. My favourite is coon hunting.
Posted by Kevin on June 20, 1999 at 23:49:59:
Sault Ste. Marie city police shot and killed another black bear in the city today.Another bear was live trapped and relocated.This is the second bear to be killed in Sault Ste. Marie in less than a week. The common sense revolution continues!
Posted by Steve Redgwell on June 20, 1999 at 02:05:45:
If you own a P-14, Lee Enfield or any rifle that shoots the 303 British cartridge, drop by the 303 Page. It's new
and needs inputs from shooters like you. The Reloading Data link will start within the next few days.
http://www3.sympatico.ca/shooters/303Page.htm
Posted by Dave on June 19, 1999 at 14:15:58:
In Reply to: Where do you hunt and what do you hunt? posted by Bob on June 12, 1999 at 11:46:07:
I start off in mid Sept. in Saskatchewan for waterfowl and upland, hunt waterfowl, deer, turkey and grouse in the Creemore/Collingwood area !! Late Nov. back to Sask. for deer. Dave
Posted by Dave on June 19, 1999 at 14:07:53:
In Reply to: Re: Shotguns posted by Sid on June 15, 1999 at 17:30:51:
Buy the Onyx, it will take 3.5 shells, not sure if the Peerless will ?? I have had mine Onyx for 5yrs. and still love shooting this gun, it`s well worth the extra money !!! Dave
Posted by Kevin on June 17, 1999 at 18:43:53:
In Reply to: Finally a hunting bulliton board in Canada! posted by Sue on June 17, 1999 at 18:04:57:
Sue; Are you an avid hunter?
Posted by Sue on June 17, 1999 at 18:04:57:
I just came across this site. This is great!
Posted by Kevin on June 17, 1999 at 12:02:00:
In Reply to: Re: Black bears again! posted by Fischer on June 17, 1999 at 08:11:33:
I spoke with a provincial police constable yesterday and he informed me another bear was just shot and killed over on St.Joseph Island which is only a fortyfive minute drive from the Sault.I think when the summer is over the bear kill will be almost the same except the province will have lost all the revenue generated from the spring hunt and it will end up costing the taxpayer not to mention the waste of the resource.Let`s hope nobody gets mauled or killed, it`s just the beginning.
Posted by Fischer on June 17, 1999 at 08:11:33:
In Reply to: Black bears again! posted by Kevin on June 14, 1999 at 23:46:46:
Every time you get a report like this you should copy it to the news media in T.O. Then the anti's can read for themselves the havoc they have wrought. Not that they'd care too much. They think there are too many people around anyway.
Posted by Fischer on June 17, 1999 at 08:07:41:
In Reply to: Re: Where do you hunt and what do you hunt? posted by Kevin on June 14, 1999 at 18:13:12:
I'll be in 43B, it's the west side, near Mindemoya, I think.
Posted by Paolo on June 15, 1999 at 23:34:25:
In Reply to: Re: Thunder Bay Grouse posted by Dave on June 13, 1999 at 22:22:00:
Sorry it took so long to get back to you.The grouse hunting was very good last year.We had a very dry hot spring and summer so the chick mortality rate was very low.I was also told that they had two broods.The favourite areas were up the Black Sturgeon Rd. and up the Spruce River Rd.(Hwy.527).The Dog River area was also very good and in my favourite spot the Boreal Rd. it wasgreat.This year we've had rain almost every day outside of the month of April when we had lots of forest fires.I guess we'll have to wait and see.
Posted by Sid on June 15, 1999 at 17:30:51:
In Reply to: Shotguns posted by Gavin Clark on June 15, 1999 at 17:02:48:
Seeing how you already know how the Onyx handles, I'd say that if you can afford the $300 more, go for the Beretta.(if you buy new!)
Posted by Sid on June 15, 1999 at 17:25:01:
In Reply to: Where do you hunt and what do you hunt? posted by Bob on June 12, 1999 at 11:46:07:
I hunt ducks and geese at Tiny Marsh. Rabbit,grouse, and deer in Walkerton.
And turkey in Napanee.
Posted by Gavin Clark on June 15, 1999 at 17:02:48:
I've come into a bit of money and I am faced with a very important question... Remington Peerless or Beretta Onyx???
I've only heard the Peerless but I love the handleing of the Onyx. Does anyone have any advice or experience with these guns, any info would be very much appreciated.
Posted by Kevin on June 14, 1999 at 23:46:46:
Two black bears entered the city today and one of the bears was shot and killed by city
police in a heavily populated area within the city of Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario.
Police shot the 400 lb. boar and allowed the sow to escape.
Last week a propane refrigerator at a camp north of the city was demolished by a black
bear.
Several other bears in the area have been trapped and relocated.
The common sense revolution continues...
Posted by Gavin Clark on June 14, 1999 at 21:48:08:
In Reply to: Where do you hunt and what do you hunt? posted by Bob on June 12, 1999 at 11:46:07:
This question sure caught on eh.
Posted by Kevin on June 14, 1999 at 18:13:12:
In Reply to: Re: Where do you hunt and what do you hunt? posted by Fischer on June 14, 1999 at 14:02:35:
Fischer; What end will you hunt, the east or west? I`m at Silverwater on the west side. Don`t forget the hand warmers!
Posted by Gavin Clark on June 14, 1999 at 18:02:37:
In Reply to: Re: Where do you hunt and what do you hunt? posted by Kevin on June 12, 1999 at 20:48:32:
I use a call most times, but some times I just go out and stalk
Posted by Fischer on June 14, 1999 at 14:02:35:
In Reply to: Re: Where do you hunt and what do you hunt? posted by Kevin on June 12, 1999 at 18:08:16:
Hey, Kevin I have an invitation to go to Manitoulin myself this year. I understand there is a pretty healthy population there. I live in Kitchener, and the deer are thick as flies around here, but the shotgun hunt doesn't hold any appeal for me right now. Kind of miss my black-powder rifle, but haven't convinced myself that I really want to spend the money on another one. My son will be joining me in the hunt for the first time this year. I'm looking forward to the rifle hunt.
Posted by Dave on June 13, 1999 at 22:22:00:
In Reply to: Re: Where do you hunt and what do you hunt? posted by Paolo on June 13, 1999 at 00:57:25:
Paolo, Hows was the grouse hunting last year ??
I was thinking of making a trip up there, any help which areas to try ?? Thanks.....Dave
Posted by Paolo on June 13, 1999 at 00:57:25:
In Reply to: Where do you hunt and what do you hunt? posted by Bob on June 12, 1999 at 11:46:07:
I hunt in the Thunder Bay area for moose and grouse,and I have hunted ducks in the past.
Posted by Kevin on June 12, 1999 at 20:48:32:
In Reply to: Re: Where do you hunt and what do you hunt? posted by Gavin Clark on June 12, 1999 at 18:28:52:
Gavin; How are you hunting the coyotes, calling, baiting or stalking?
Posted by Kevin on June 12, 1999 at 20:47:56:
In Reply to: Re: Where do you hunt and what do you hunt? posted by Gavin Clark on June 12, 1999 at 18:28:52:
Gavin; How are hunting the coyotes, calling, baiting or stalking?
Posted by Gavin Clark on June 12, 1999 at 18:28:52:
In Reply to: Where do you hunt and what do you hunt? posted by Bob on June 12, 1999 at 11:46:07:
I hunt deer, bear, moose near Commanda, and I have family in Quebec so every year I Caribou hunt in Northern Quebec (right near Labrador). I also hunt coyote in Milton, and duck and goose hunt, if the farmers let me. If the deer or moose hunting gets slow i'll take out my 20ga and hunt grouse, but i enjoy open field bird more.
Posted by Kevin on June 12, 1999 at 18:08:16:
In Reply to: Where do you hunt and what do you hunt? posted by Bob on June 12, 1999 at 11:46:07:
Bob; I hunt coyote and waterfowl near Sault Ste. Marie, I also trap in the Sault area, I deer hunt over on the west end of Manitoulin Island.
Posted by Skyman on June 12, 1999 at 16:01:20:
In Reply to: Where do you hunt and what do you hunt? posted by Bob on June 12, 1999 at 11:46:07:
I hunt grouse, woodcock and rabbit mainly. I used to hunt deer and moose but do not take those hunts very seriously anymore. It's still a good excuse to go for a walk. I do all this in the Carnarvon/Dorset area of Ontario.
Posted by Bob on June 12, 1999 at 11:46:07:
I hunt Moose, deer, and bear near Denbeigh On.
Posted by andrew priest on June 12, 1999 at 04:28:30:
In Reply to: Load Data Needed posted by Steve Redgwell on April 19, 1999 at 14:14:53:
my gunsmith, peter hyde in whangarei new zealnd converted a martini action to 303-38 for black powder shooting. it was a very accurate gun but i do not know what the load was. he also made a set of reloading dies for it. it was for sale but i do not know if this is still the case. if this is of any interest e-mail me and i will find out more for you.
Posted by Gavin Clark on June 10, 1999 at 15:15:08:
In Reply to: BARBEQUE!!! posted by Y.Bear on June 10, 1999 at 09:54:59:
HEHEHEHE!
Posted by Y.Bear on June 10, 1999 at 09:54:59:
ALL hUmenS invItId too Jiant bBq at liNdsaY landFiL...3 am...plAnty Of mEEt anD JooSeS...bE tHerE orr bE skWarE...gRRR...hee-hee..Grrr
Posted by Kevin on June 09, 1999 at 22:08:20:
In Reply to: Waterfowling posted by Kevin on June 07, 1999 at 07:29:55:
While we`re on this subject I wanted to mention that I rigged my puddle duck decoys with tangle free line this year and it works great!
Posted by Gavin Clark on June 09, 1999 at 21:47:19:
In Reply to: Re: Black bears again! posted by Bob on June 09, 1999 at 19:54:19:
I hear the spring bear hunt roarwing back. There have been to many cases already and it's just now the start of the summer. i can't believe why hey cancelled the bear hunt, the bear population was already high, what did they think would happen. If those antis think that a dead cub is sad wait for the first child to be mauled, then we'll see what they say!
Posted by Kevin on June 09, 1999 at 21:46:48:
In Reply to: Re: Black bears again! posted by Kern on June 09, 1999 at 17:50:15:
Kern; The way things are in this province today I would bet you would be charged, make an appearance in court,probably found not guilty (if it was done in a safe manner)then you would have to pay any legal fees.If you live in the country you might consider the three s`s. Shoot, shovel and shut up.If you are charged with any firearm related offences I would suggest contacting the National Firearms Association.
http://nfa.ca/
Posted by Dave on June 09, 1999 at 21:46:38:
In Reply to: Re: Waterfowling posted by Bill on June 09, 1999 at 11:05:50:
Bill, We started out the same way, plus with help from the locals and C.O`s in Sask. get a hold of a map of Sask. some good places to go are Wynyard ( N.E of Saskatoon) for waterfowl, lots of U.S hunters, Weyburn area, (south of Regina), is good for both waterfowl and upland, the past few yrs. we have been hunting around North Battleford (N.W of Saskatoon) If time is not on your side, u might want to use a outfitter !! Obtaining permission is not a problem, most farmers want the geese off there fields, look to hunt the pea fields first before the grain fields, hunting ducks and geese go hand & hand, at first light the ducks are in then the geese, when spotting, locate a good size body of water on the map and just look up, the flocks are huge, just follow the flocks to the feeding areas. If u would like more info. pls. email and i can send u some email address for u to get more info. from the Sask. Gov`t. Dave
Posted by Gavin Clark on June 09, 1999 at 21:43:48:
In Reply to: Re: Black bears again! posted by Kern on June 09, 1999 at 17:50:15:
I heard of farmers using them for crow and other stuff, but not bears. But there are some devices for bears as well. There is some sort spray, like peper spray. And there is a sort of flare used from a flare gun. You fire it in the general direction of the bear, and I guess the bear will leave. But i think that would start some sort of fire??? Form what i hear the best thing to do is make noise and the bears will leave. But, there are those bears that have bad intent, and they dont care how much noise you make. So if i had the bear in my sights... i'd shoot, better safe then sorry!
Posted by Bob on June 09, 1999 at 19:54:19:
In Reply to: Black bears again! posted by Kevin on June 09, 1999 at 12:31:52:
Lindsay
Local police have yet to hunt down our local
blackie, they now believe there are at least
two bears, the reports of sightings are just
too far apart. Ministry has given the OK for
police to shoot.
Posted by Kern on June 09, 1999 at 17:50:15:
In Reply to: Re: Black bears again! posted by Gavin Clark on June 09, 1999 at 17:10:32:
How much trouble will Joe Blow get into for shooting a bear he finds peeping in through the window of the cottage or even a house from the sounds of some of these posts??? With kids arounds I think Ill shoot first!! Has anyone tried those noise makers that are shot from shotguns??
Posted by Kern on June 09, 1999 at 17:43:20:
In Reply to: Waterfowling posted by Kevin on June 07, 1999 at 07:29:55:
Love shootin ducks and geese...even more since I bought a Browning Bps 10ga. I also dont care much for steel shot. I hunt marshes around southern Ont.
Posted by Gavin Clark on June 09, 1999 at 17:10:32:
In Reply to: Black bears again! posted by Kevin on June 09, 1999 at 12:31:52:
I think that we might see a bear hunt this spring, but will the damage be done by then?
I'll bet any money that there will be many attacks this summer. If there are more bears, there i less food. That is bad for two reasons 1) the bears will be forced down into the cotage towns to find food. 2) (this is the one that scares me) They're gonna be really mad, when bears go with out food they get a short temper and they dont stand for anything. So be careful with your garbage and your BBQs this summer, cause you might find more than racoons eaten it!
Posted by Kevin on June 09, 1999 at 12:31:52:
A woman who resides just south of Sudbury had a black bear look into her house window, she called the police, the police regarding the situation as dangerous called in the MNR who darted the bear only to have it escape into the woods.The woman says she is concerned about her daughter playing outside the home.
Posted by Bill on June 09, 1999 at 11:05:50:
In Reply to: Re: Waterfowling posted by Dave on June 07, 1999 at 21:17:15:
Dave I am thinking of going west this year to do some duck hunting. Was planning to fly out, rent a car and just travel the country roads in search of birds and then ask permission to hunt when I find a good looking area. Based on your experiences in Sask. does this freelance approach make any sense? Any suggestions?
Posted by Kevin on June 07, 1999 at 23:18:15:
In Reply to: Waterfowling posted by Kevin on June 07, 1999 at 07:29:55:
I hunt the St. Mary`s River east of Sault Ste. Marie, I bought a Blackjack duck boat from Kentucky a couple of years ago and get out after work and on weekends every chance I get. I hunt with my black lab, use an 870 with a Hastings barrel.Can`t say I`m impressed with using steel shot as it cripples more ducks than lead shot even at close range .I have shot Mallards where they have lost ten feet of air and came spinning down then recovered only to fly fifty yards or more, make a controlled landing and then die.
Posted by Dave on June 07, 1999 at 21:17:15:
In Reply to: Waterfowling posted by Kevin on June 07, 1999 at 07:29:55:
Love waterfowling, my fav. is Sask. in Oct.
Posted by Shooter on June 07, 1999 at 17:25:27:
In Reply to: Waterfowling posted by Kevin on June 07, 1999 at 07:29:55:
I have been gunning Rondeau Marsh on Lake Erie since 1987. I live near north shore of Lake St clair but prefer rondeau. Shooter www.angelfire.com/la/outdoorspot
Posted by Gavin Clark on June 07, 1999 at 16:15:34:
In Reply to: Waterfowling posted by Kevin on June 07, 1999 at 07:29:55:
Sure, I'll hunt anything that flys!
Posted by Kevin on June 07, 1999 at 07:29:55:
Any duck hunters on here?
Posted by Steve on June 06, 1999 at 20:45:43:
In Reply to: WATCHDOG BITES SCHAD FOUNDATION - Original posted by Dobber Bobber posted by Fischer on May 21, 1999 at 08:32:49:
Another interesting point is that Husky Injection Molding's stock prices have fallen from a high of just over $16.00 the first week of January to a price of just over $7.00 right now. Isn't that an awful shame?
Posted by Gavin Clark on June 04, 1999 at 18:06:53:
In Reply to: Re: Black bear killed posted by orion on June 03, 1999 at 09:54:16:
I totally understand, i have a place near northbay, and we've had a problem with bears as it is! And alot of the time we have little kids around running up into the dence bush, i'm gonna have to keep a watchful eye out his year and hopfully the hunt will be reinstated.
Posted by orion on June 04, 1999 at 09:38:29:
In Reply to: Re: Black bear killed posted by Paolo on June 04, 1999 at 00:27:37:
another problem is that now, in the new fish and wildlife conservation act, a person may employ an agent to come on their property and remove a nuisance bear. so we will have people baiting bears to use this excuse and there will be many suspicious shootings. but don't worry, the mnr c.o.s can't investigate because they now have another four years of "no gas money to drive their trucks for patrol". way to go, mikey.
Posted by Paolo on June 04, 1999 at 00:27:37:
In Reply to: Re: Black bear killed posted by orion on June 03, 1999 at 09:55:13:
Up here in Thunder Bay ther has been about six incidents regarding bears.One was also shot at by police.It's going to be a big problem in the very near future.
Posted by Kevin on June 03, 1999 at 21:29:28:
In Reply to: Re: voting day posted by Gavin Clark on June 03, 1999 at 19:54:54:
I agree that the Conservatives are the best of the worst when it comes to hunting and firearm ownership, but not by much.
I have a problem with Conservation Officers charging people, taking them to court and then losing because they made a bad decision and without sufficient evidence. The person they charge are stuck for paying the lawyers bill and the Crown is not held responsible for being wrong.I`d like to see legislation compensating victims for court costs and lawyer fees.Discretion seems to be a huge problem and in my opinion should be exercised more frequently.
Posted by Gavin Clark on June 03, 1999 at 19:54:54:
In Reply to: Re: voting day posted by Tackleberry on June 03, 1999 at 18:09:25:
I totally agree, what we need are more COs in the field. Lets face it, if anyone wanted to, you could go out and poach, and no one would notice. And i hate to say it but some people do poach, for money, or for the heck of it,and we need a government that can accept that fact and act to stop it. We as law biding hunter sould support the government that will stop poachers. Stopping poachers will give hunter a better name, alot of the non-hunting population believe that most hunter are crook but we have done so much good. What about the elk that have been reintroduced, and the Caribou, and Turkey and pheasent, and Bob white quail, and the constant grow in game pop. So when you vote think of preserving hunting for the future.
Posted by Tackleberry on June 03, 1999 at 18:09:25:
In Reply to: voting day posted by Kevin on June 03, 1999 at 07:34:10:
OK guys I don't want this to turn into a big policical discussion....(topic??).....well any way, Yes I "question" the bear hunt topic and all that surrounds it. BUT!!!! let's not loose sight of the big picture!!! I see with the Bear Hunt Post below, that an "atitude" is developing. What is the big picture? Take a good look at the latest ON Out-of-doors and see what the canidates/ parties are saying about conservation and related topics. The P/C party is overwhelmingly an outdoorsie group. REGARDLESS WHAT YOU FEEL ABOUT THE BEAR HUNT!! THE OTHER CANIDATES ARE OF THE SAME MIND FOR THIS ISSUE AND WORST ON OTHERS!!!!!!
After all, they have already enacted new legislation to help protect OUR wildlife. OH! who out there was happey about the "grandfathering" of F.A.C. four years ago??????
At least vote, BUT try not to linger on ONE issue. (that is why this province is SOOOOOO screwed up bouncing back and forth from party to party)
My personal opinion, is that out of the "three" contenders (not that NDP really is) the Pc Party is the best choice going. Besides , I would like to see the changes "started" to be completed and then an assessment made. As far as I am concerned, they kept more ove their promises in the last four years the last two administrations combined. Just a hard working tax payers opinion, unfortuneately a little too late. BTW, I am a Law Enforcement Officer and my wife is a Professional in a hospital. (suprisingly enough she is voting with me)
Posted by Mike on June 03, 1999 at 11:53:48:
In Reply to: Re: MOOOOOOOOOOSE posted by Bob on May 20, 1999 at 07:14:07:
Yes Bob you are right i have seen more Moose
in that area to. Hope you have a good Hunt
Mike
Posted by orion on June 03, 1999 at 09:55:55:
In Reply to: Re: Black bear killed posted by Tackleberry on June 02, 1999 at 11:18:28:
speaking of nuisance bears, traditionally, removal has been one of the courtesys of the OTA. they have now refused to do it as a protest of the harris govt. The towns with the biggest problems will be sudbury, then north bay, etc, but the problems may not begin for a few years. everybody from toronto loves bears until one comes within 1000m of their cottage. then they want it blown away. sit back and watch the peta show. should be good.
Posted by orion on June 03, 1999 at 09:55:13:
In Reply to: Re: Black bear killed posted by Tackleberry on June 02, 1999 at 11:18:28:
speaking of nuisance bears, traditionally, removal has been one of the courtesys of the OTA. they have now refused to do it as a protest of the harris govt. The towns with the biggest problems will be sudbury, then north bay, etc, but the problems may not begin for a few years. everybody from toronto loves bears until one comes within 1000m of their cottage. then they want it blown away. sit back and watch the peta show. should be good.
Posted by orion on June 03, 1999 at 09:54:16:
In Reply to: Re: Black bear killed posted by Tackleberry on June 02, 1999 at 11:18:28:
speaking of nuisance bears, traditionally, removal has been one of the courtesys of the OTA. they have now refused to do it as a protest of the harris govt. the towns with the biggest problems will be sudbury, then north bay, etc, but the problems may not begin for a few years. everybody from toronto loves bears until one comes within 1000m of their cottage. then they want it blown away. sit back and watch the peta show. should be good.
Posted by Kevin on June 03, 1999 at 07:34:10:
Ok you hunters, don`t forget to vote today.
Posted by Bob on June 03, 1999 at 07:02:51:
In Reply to: Black bear killed posted by Kevin on May 29, 1999 at 23:17:33:
Black bear near Lindsay Ontario is beleived responsible for the death of a foal.
Lindsay police are "Bear hunting" as I type this. Are you listening Mr Premier???
Posted by Tackleberry on June 02, 1999 at 11:18:28:
In Reply to: Black bear killed posted by Kevin on May 29, 1999 at 23:17:33:
Funny, I didn't hear the news report stating that the SIU (Special Investigations Unit ) was being called in to investigate the incident. They have to find out whether the bear was enticed to come into town thus setting it up to be shot by the trigger happy men in blue. Just like the subject officer (SGT.) who was speaking to the escapee from Kingston Pen. before he shot himself.
For those of you who don't know me, I'm a sworn law enforcement office with the University of Toronto Police and a CFSC/CRFSC Instructor and avid hunter/comp. shooter. Shoot Safe,
Tack
Posted by Tackleberry on June 02, 1999 at 11:10:00:
In Reply to: calibre question posted by Sam on May 30, 1999 at 18:33:54:
If you have the regs. there take a look at the list of firearm/calibre restriction. It lists the counties with either firearm type restrictions (muzzleload & shotgun season only) and centrefire calibre restrictions. Get that list then compare it to the WMU map of southern ON. You will see that all (I believe) are located south of Highway #89. This is a good "guide" for you. Shoot Straight and Safe Shooting
Tack
Posted by Kevin on May 31, 1999 at 22:07:12:
In Reply to: Any takers? posted by Jes on May 31, 1999 at 21:12:23:
Hi Jes;
I`m an avid coyote hunter, I call them to the gun and sell the hides.There is no closed season but I only hunt them during the winter months when the fur is prime.
Posted by Jes on May 31, 1999 at 21:12:23:
I just realized this board has grown since I was here the first time it was open. It`s about time that Ontario hunters have acces to this. I was starting to think that I was the only person in Ontario that took a more serious interest in hunting than, "It`s hunting season, lets get some beer!". But anyway, it`s great to know there are others out there. So here`s the scoop. Last season I was hunting grouse, and spotted a coyote about 30 yards away. I had my brand new .22 with me and figured, hmm, it`s season, and I`ve always wanted to hunt predators. So I tried a well placed shot, and it was well placed in the base of the neck, I seen the hit in the scope. Well, down it went after a back flip, and then it got up and ran faster than anyting I`ve ever seen run before. After a fruitless track, (it ran through bog with about 6" off water on top of packed down moss and I`m sure he died very quickly) I came to two conclusions. 1- Don`t be that stupid ever again, and 2- I definatley need to use somthing a little bigger to ensure humane, instant kills. So I just recently constructed an electronic game caller( I still have to check the regs on that one) and orderd a brand new .223 . I live in the Timmins area, and wonder if there is anybody who had a similar interest. If so, leave a message on this board. Great job on the board and lets keep it alive!
Posted by JES on May 31, 1999 at 20:48:56:
In Reply to: Your opinions on the Ruger Mini-30 .308 posted by +++ on April 20, 1999 at 22:09:43:
I realize that I may be a little late on the subject, but I just "discoverd" this board. I think that it`s great that we have an Ontario board. The mini-thirty is a real winner. I have found nothing that handles as fast and is pleasent to carry. Although accuracy is so-so, the reliability of these little semi`s is unbelievable. I have never tried heavier bullts (than the 123gr) but find in penetration tests that the lighter bullets are just fine. I believe that heavier bullets at slower velocities would ruin the ballistic balance of this cartridge. Wouldn`t take it out for moose, but deer, wolf and even baited bears(but not in the spring anymore) are the primary targets of mine. I don`t think you will be disapointed, unless 300 yard accuracy is the soul goal of your quest.
Posted by Kevin on May 30, 1999 at 22:00:07:
In Reply to: calibre question posted by Sam on May 30, 1999 at 18:33:54:
Haliburton is WMU56, the season is from Nov.2-Nov.14 and there are no cal. restrictions ....page 13 of 31 on the Web Regs.
Posted by Benny on May 30, 1999 at 21:59:49:
In Reply to: Re: Tags posted by Kevin on May 30, 1999 at 18:05:19:
Thank you very much!
Posted by Sam on May 30, 1999 at 18:33:54:
I have a question about rifle calibres, and it seems I get a different question every time I ask it. I'm planning to do a deer hunt this fall enar haliburton, WMU 55 or 56 (can't remember off hand) Is it legal for me to use a 308?? People have told me that the south of the French River the limit is a .275. People have also told me that I could use any caliber, as long as the county I'm in allows center fire.
Any help???
Thanks
Sam
Posted by Kevin on May 30, 1999 at 18:05:19:
In Reply to: Re: Tags posted by Benny on May 30, 1999 at 17:14:39:
Apply for the card, the license can be purchased after and the sticker can then be attached to the back of the card.
Posted by Benny on May 30, 1999 at 17:14:39:
In Reply to: Re: Tags posted by Kevin on May 29, 1999 at 22:46:52:
I dont not have an outdoors card, but i have passed the test.
Posted by Kevin on May 30, 1999 at 11:40:54:
A Wanup Ontario man looked up to find a black bear in his house this weekend after leaving the door open, it`s just a matter of time before someone gets killed and I hope they take the province to court over mismanaging the abundant black bear in Ontario.
Posted by ROYZCE on May 30, 1999 at 03:11:36:
In Reply to: steel shot posted by Nick on February 22, 1999 at 20:29:42:
Nick, I'm sure before long, hunting with lead will
be nothing but a memory. Living in coastal
Louisiana, I've made the adjustment to steel
several years ago and only needed to make minor
changes when reloading. Shot makers are very
close in marketing pellets as dense or denser
than lead. The next concern will cost and
availibility. Pintails, Mallards and Widgeons
Posted by ROYZCE on May 30, 1999 at 02:30:34:
In Reply to: First timer posted by Sid on March 10, 1999 at 17:45:10:
Sid, Just found this site. I agree with your statement
about the few people using the site. Well here is
my input. I was wondering about the present tundra
situation in Canada and how this year's nesting
conditions are doing. Is it to early to tell?
Hoping to hear from waterfowlers in Canada. It
will be two months before Louisiana conducts it's
Fall flight count. Can somebody help a fellow
hunter out. Pintail, Mallards and Widgeons
Posted by ROYZCE on May 30, 1999 at 01:52:39:
In Reply to: New Duck hunting web posted by Doct on April 08, 1999 at 21:06:06:
Hi Hunters, I've been having a case of the off season
blues. Had to watch a tape of my recorded
Saturday morning duck hunting shows. Hope I'm
not the only one to be experiencing pin feather
withdrawls. Pintails,Mallards and Widgeons
Posted by ROYZCE on May 30, 1999 at 01:12:56:
In Reply to: Goose Hunting posted by Nick on December 15, 1998 at 12:43:50:
Looking forward to next season. Been waterfowling
for 25 years. Now hunting at the mouth of Miss.
River. Did mostly scouting last year. Birds are
wary by the time they reach Venice, La. Coastal
tides creates hugh mud flats, hard to reach most.
I've had less than 6 times to even shoot on geese
in my travels. Cant wait to do my part in helping
out Canada's tundra.
From the Sportmens
Paradise, Louiaiana
Posted by Kevin on May 29, 1999 at 23:17:33:
Sault Ste. Marie city police just shot, killed and wasted another black bear, so much for conservation!
Posted by Kern on May 29, 1999 at 23:15:10:
In Reply to: Tags posted by Benny on May 29, 1999 at 14:28:29:
If your talking about carrying your own gun..i think you have to be at least 18. Under 18 must be supervised by a licenced adult. Call the MNR to be sure.
Posted by Kevin on May 29, 1999 at 22:46:52:
In Reply to: Tags posted by Benny on May 29, 1999 at 14:28:29:
Benny; Do you have a current Outdoors card?
Posted by Benny on May 29, 1999 at 14:28:29:
I am 15 and i have completed the FAC course and the hunter safty course. I have asked a couple of guys when i can buy my own tags but i didn't get a good answer, most of them didn't know. Last deer season i did the apprentice thing, wirth one gun for two guys. So if some one could tell me when i can buy my own tags i would be very pleased.
Posted by Gavin Clark on May 29, 1999 at 12:57:21:
In Reply to: 20 Gauge for ducks, am I nuts?? posted by Braden on January 12, 1999 at 22:03:46:
You can drop ducks with a 2 3/4 steel shot 20ga. BUT, You would be more successful if you had a 12ga 3 1/2, but at the end of he day the number of ducks dont matter just the fun you had trying. But i have dropped a couple of ducks with your same outfit.
Posted by Gavin Clark on May 29, 1999 at 12:40:15:
In Reply to: looking for a semi-auto shotgun posted by Sam on April 13, 1999 at 16:46:55:
If you are just starting to use shotguns, I would highly recommend getting a pump. You can a good Winchester Model 1330 with a set of chokes (so you can hunt turkey, geese, ducks, or any thing else with one gun) for under $400. Another gun that I would recommend would be the Reminton 870 Express. One of the greatest pumps of all time, and you only haveto pay $350-400.
Posted by Sid on May 26, 1999 at 18:37:50:
In Reply to: Re: Turkey calling posted by Kern on May 14, 1999 at 22:40:11:
I got out only once this year. I got a response from a tom, but I couldn't close the gap between us. I used a Browning BPS 12 gauge, and I used camo tape over it. The tape looks good. I think I'll use it for Duck this year.
Posted by bob on May 23, 1999 at 09:13:05:
In Reply to: WATCHDOG BITES SCHAD FOUNDATION - Original posted by Dobber Bobber posted by Fischer on May 21, 1999 at 08:32:49:
Great now lets get PETA.
Posted by Fischer on May 21, 1999 at 08:32:49:
This information was posted on the fishing board by Dobber haven't been on site for quite a while, eh! ........so glad to be back.................anyhooo, new edition of Ont. out of Doors George Barkhouse[self styled watchdog of charities] requested Rev. Canada the shad foundation be investigated & its charitable status withdrawn ...........Rev Canada has no choice but revoke shads charitable{ha} status, according to George.......shad illegally supported ifaw who is now a non charitable group & thats a nono,,,,,,,,,great job George!!!!!!!!!TIPS UP & TITE LINES!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by John Bacon on May 20, 1999 at 22:16:17:
In Reply to: Gun range close to Toronto?? posted by Braden on May 20, 1999 at 01:00:21:
I went to one at the arena at Midland & Eglinton -
I beleive it's called McGreggor. It's for 22 rim
fire only. I am not sure if it is open all year
or not. The Toronto Sportsman Association should
be able to provide more info, as they use it for
their hunting courses.
Posted by Bob on May 20, 1999 at 07:14:07:
In Reply to: Re: MOOOOOOOOOOSE posted by Steve Redgwell on May 12, 1999 at 11:28:26:
I used to hunt Sudbury area. Too many hunters.
Moved to our deer hunt camp near Denbeigh. Moose are moving south into the area rapidly.
Tag quota is better too.
:)
Posted by Braden on May 20, 1999 at 01:00:21:
Anyone know of a good gun range in the Toronto area. I'd like to
sight in my rifle (22lr) in the near future, and as far as I know
Pickering only has range time from august onwards. Thanks in advance!
Posted by Braden on May 20, 1999 at 00:57:54:
In Reply to: Re: Chuck Hunting??? WHERE???????? posted by Fischer on May 19, 1999 at 10:43:13:
I appreciate the info, I like your form Tackleberry,
I'll be making a copy of it for use in the near
future.
Posted by Tackleberry on May 19, 1999 at 23:23:06:
In Reply to: Chuck Hunting??? posted by Tackleberry on May 11, 1999 at 20:15:10:
Braden, it seems tough to "break into" an area. I can give you suggestions more for how than where. The only problem with Ficher's suggestion is,driving around and dropping by places unannounced in todays "politically correct" world might not produce the response you are looking for. A lot of yuppies (specificly anti-gun/ani-hunting)have moved out to the country and appreciate "the wild life" roaming free.(even thou they are digging up their property) As well you maybe mowing another hunter's grass. The most successful way I found to supply property was to have them search you out. I placed an ad in the local rural newspaper classified section for "Farmers/Land Owners". The ad said "Groundhog Problem?? Licenced and insured hunters looking to expand hunting area. Free Service" Each time this ad was placed I received a minium of 3-4 calls. I followed up by stopping by (not ready to hunt) and speak about what "we" could provide. I would have a permission form available for them to consider, but usually had them sign up on the spot. Sometimes the landowner would have already spoke to a neighbour and two would sign up. The Form; I...... of, ...... give permission for XXXXXX and his/their accompanying group to hunt for the game listed below. I understand that all members of the group are licenced to hunt in the province and members of the Ontario Federation of Anglers and Hunters. I further understand that as a member of the Federation each are insured by a two million dollar third party liability policy. Then a list of different game found in the area and a section to list areas authorized to hunt.(what field, which farm(s)) using carbine paper a copy is made and given to the owner. My friends and I didn't always get out together so we had small signs made up to leave on the dashboard of the our vehicles as identification. I accutally had to slow down I was all over the county and not paid for it. Hope this helps, Stay Safe and Have Fun With Those Chucks!!!!
Posted by Fischer on May 19, 1999 at 10:43:13:
In Reply to: Re: Chuck Hunting??? WHERE???????? posted by Braden on May 18, 1999 at 14:22:47:
Start cruising the countryside looking for likely pasture and hay fields, then stop in and see if you can get permission from the farmer. You'll find that morning and evening are usually the best times to spot them, though I remember as a kid, I used to spend whole days buzzing around my Grandfather's and neighboring farms. Like anywhere else these days, you can't just cruise in and start blasting. I'll be visiting a few farms myself in the next while, trying to get some places set up, so my son and I can get tuned up for deer hunting this fall. My boy will use my scoped Ruger 10/22 International (with the Mannlicher stock - an original, not the re-make. What a beaut!) and I'll use a Savage 342 in .22 Hornet, with peep sight, so we won't be "reaching out and touching" them from any great distance. Good luck!
Posted by Braden on May 18, 1999 at 14:22:47:
In Reply to: Chuck Hunting??? posted by Tackleberry on May 11, 1999 at 20:15:10:
Always wanted to try for chucks, but haven't a clue where
to start. Any good locations you'd be willing to part
with. I'm always looking for a beastie that I can
take with a 22LR. I enjoy getting in close personally.
Not that I'm against going bigger, but my mini-14 is
about as accurate as a tossed tennis ball. Good shooting!! Braden
Posted by Tackleberry on May 17, 1999 at 08:55:15:
In Reply to: Re: Chuck Hunting??? posted by Kern on May 14, 1999 at 22:32:53:
Thanks for the understanding Kern.
I approach chuck hunting similar to a golf-pro to a coarse. I scan the area and decide which "club" to use. If wide open areas are available, now, I use my Swedish Mauser in 6.5 x 55. It has a 3x9 with Bullet Drop Compensator/Rangefinder Scope, a Harris Bipod (of coarse). I use to (prior to the days of Kimmy)use the same scope and bipod on my AR-15 Hbar (.223 Cal.). For walking the fields at medium ranges I like my .22mag. or .22LR bolt. For going "down-town", taking it to them, I use my 870 12ga.(slug barrel) with BB or #2. (this is mostly for fence row walks in long grass, wooded area etc.) The 22-250 is an excellent chioce. Flat shooting and scrrreaaaaming down range. The biggest advantage in the fast flat shooter is estimating distances out to those little targets. Some out there may see that as cheating!?!?!? Take Care
Tack
Posted by Kern on May 14, 1999 at 22:40:11:
In Reply to: Turkey calling posted by Sid on April 26, 1999 at 18:20:02:
Hi Sid...I heard they will sound off to a car door closing so I just use a duck call for locating them and have a box call for calling them. Did you get out this year?? How did you do?? What kind of gun do you use for turkey??
Posted by Kern on May 14, 1999 at 22:32:53:
In Reply to: Chuck Hunting??? posted by Tackleberry on May 11, 1999 at 20:15:10:
I hear ya Tackleberry....since my little guy came along seems i dont get out as much any more...and then there is always something around the house to do as well....so whats your fav toy for chucks??? do you like to tag them up close or reach out across the feild. Ive never shot them myself but am interested in trying it. I really like the 22-250 but hear its really loud.
Posted by Steve Redgwell on May 12, 1999 at 11:28:26:
In Reply to: MOOOOOOOOOOSE posted by Tackelberry on May 11, 1999 at 20:04:38:
I put our group application in on monday. We had to get replacements because the originals were in a friend's truck that was stolen. I was expecting a problem at the ministry office but the process went smoothly. We've applied for our std area 21A. We didn't get a tag last year so it should be no problem this year. The last few years there hasn't been much taken out of that area that I know of. There were fresh forest fires and no sign. I hope the same thing doesn't happen again.
Posted by Tackleberry on May 11, 1999 at 20:15:10:
Well let's hear it!! This avid chuck hunter is going through sever withdrawal. I use to spend all of my fee week days walking the fields, sitting high atop a hill or walking the fence rows. Now that I have a beautiful little girl, it appears I don't have time for this now.(well, right, now)
There are a number of toys scrRRREEEeaming to be let out and play. So, how are the numbers out there????
Posted by Tackelberry on May 11, 1999 at 20:04:38:
Well folks, I've been in to see what is happening in here over the past week and is seems DEAD!!! So, ya'all got your moose app.s in ???? Sat. 15th is the deadline. I got mine in today. Changing WMU's this year, left the Haliburton Forest(54) for Mink Lake (62) northwest of Sharbot Lake (north of Kingston). We're breaking new ground, my partners aunt owns the property, appearently not hunted on (that we know of). The "locals", I hear, hunt deer and want the moose out of there. 62 only supports 10 bull tags & no cow. I'll open it up to the floor now, any hot tips? prospects? or just go ahead and brag. Stay Safe, & Shoot Straight
Tack
Posted by Steve Brown on May 06, 1999 at 23:04:28:
In Reply to: Re: coyote hunting tips posted by Steve on January 19, 1999 at 23:23:29:
What is the best way to distinguish coyote tracks from those of domestic dogs?
Posted by BuckHunter on May 05, 1999 at 09:17:21:
In Reply to: Re: poss.world record buck posted by Boone on March 08, 1999 at 20:35:09:
Buck was officially scored two weeks ago. Nets 216-plus. Rompola still has not submitted the sheets to B&C or Commemorative Bucks of Michigan (state group).
Most think his past record will keep him from ever entering the buck in the record book.
Posted by Ron on May 05, 1999 at 08:30:16:
Remington M700 Sendero SF in 300WinMag, 26" barrel. Also icluded are 2 sets of reloaded dies, RCBS and Hornady
New-Dimension dies. Bought brand new from Gagnon on Dec.1/97.Approx. 600rds fired. Price, $800.00 Sorry, no scope or
mounts included.
Posted by Fischer on April 30, 1999 at 16:06:37:
In Reply to: Re: Manitoba Spring Bear Hunt posted by John Bacon on April 29, 1999 at 23:10:25:
It probably is, as most Humane Societies are. The Animal Rights groups tend not to be, although they will often issue "tax receipts". Why should they care after they have people's money. Hopefully the hunting groups in Manitoba will pick up on that. I think it was the IFAW that moved it's head office out of Canada for a few years, because they were getting in trouble over their so-called charitable status.
Posted by John Bacon on April 29, 1999 at 23:10:25:
In Reply to: Manitoba Spring Bear Hunt posted by Fischer on April 28, 1999 at 13:21:38:
Is the Winnipeg Humane Society a registered
charity? If so, they may be putting their status
in jeopardy. The Toronto Humane Society had to
back off of their anti-fur campaign or lose their
status. We may be able to apply some pressure
from this angle.
Posted by Fischer on April 29, 1999 at 08:38:22:
In Reply to: GOOSE HUNTING posted by Tim on April 28, 1999 at 19:40:59:
This should be on the fishing web under "FISHING FOR SUCKERS" I don't know about the US rules, but I'll guarantee this is illegal in Canada. I hope Andy takes this crap off of here.
Posted by +++ on April 28, 1999 at 23:10:26:
In Reply to: Re: Your opinions on the Ruger Mini-30 .308 posted by Tackleberry on April 23, 1999 at 17:26:08:
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Posted by Tim on April 28, 1999 at 19:40:59:
READING THIS COULD CHANGE YOUR LIFE! Have you ever dreamed about what you would buy
if you had tons of cash, well here is your chance that will
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I am sure you could use $10,000.00 in the next 90 days.
A few days ago, I was on the internet browsing through message boards
just like you are now, and came across a message like this one
that said you could make thousands of dollars within weeks
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so I kept reading. Anyway, it said that you send $1.00 to each
of the 6 names and address stated in the article. You then place
your own name and address in the bottom of the list at #6, and
post the article in at least 200 newsgroups. (There are
thousands) No catch, that was it. So after thinking it over, and
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Please study this letter carefully.... THIS IS NOT A CHAIN
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get 6 US $1.00 bills and place ONE inside EACH of the 6 pieces
of paper so the bill will not be seen through the envelope to
prevent thievery. Next, place one paper in each of the 6
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each with a piece of paper stating the above phrase, your name
and address, and a $1.00 bill. What you are doing is creating a
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Mail the 6 envelopes to the following addresses:
#1) Eddie C.
7308 California Blvd. NE
Calgary, AB, Canada
T1Y 6X5 #2) Jenny Lee
7308 California Blvd. NE
Calgary, AB,
Canada
T1Y 6X5 #3) Jensen A.
7308 California Blvd. NE
Calgary, Alberta
T1Y 6X5
Canada #4) Melissa Coker
113 Tarheel Dr.
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7308 California Blvd N.E
Calgary, Alberta
Canada
TlY 6X5 #6) T.J. Saver
P.O. Box 84
Edenowld, SK
S0G 1K0
Canada
STE P 2: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above,
move the other names up (6 becomes , 5 becomes 4, etc...) and
add YOUR Name as number 6 on the list. STEP 3: Change anything
you need to, but try to keep this article as close to original
as possible. If you do not live in the us or there is a foreign
address you must put a international stamp on your envelopes.
Now, post your amended article to at least 200 newsgroups.
(I think there are close to 24,000 groups) All you
need is 200, but remember, the more you post, the more money you
make!---DIRECTIONS -----HOW TO POST TO NEWSGROUPS------------ Step 1) You do not need to re-type this entire letter to do your
own posting. Simply put your cursor at the beginning of this
letter and drag your cursor to the bottom of this letter, and
select 'copy' from the edit menu. This will copy the entire
letter into the computers memory. Step 2) Open a blank 'notepad' file and place your cursor at the
top of the blank page. From the 'edit' menu select 'paste'. This
will paste a copy of the letter into notepad so that you can add
your name to the list. Step 3) Save your new notepad file as a ..txt file. If you want
to do your postings in different sittings, you'll always have
this file to go back to. Step 4) Use Netscape or Internet explorer and try searching for
various newsgroups (on-line forums, message boards, chat sites,
discussions.) Step 5) Visit these message boards and post this article as a
new message by highlighting the text of this letter and
selecting paste from the edit menu. Fill in the Subject, this
will be the header that everyone sees as they scroll through the
list of postings in a particular group, click the post message
button. You're done with your first one!
Congratulations...THAT'S IT! All you have to do is jump to
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THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL MAKE!! BUT YOU HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF
200** That's it!
You will begin receiving money from around the world within days!
You may eventually want to rent a P.O. Box due to the large
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you can invent a name to use, as long as the postman will
deliver it. **JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT.** Now
the WHY part: Out of 200 postings, say I receive only 5 replies
(a very low example). So then I made $5.00 with my name at #6 on
the letter. Now, each of the 5 persons who just sent me $1.00
make the MINIMUM 200 postings, each with my name at #5 and only
5 persons respond to each of the original 5, that is another
$25.00 for me, now those 25 each make 200 MINIMUM posts with my
name at #4 and only 5 replies each, I will bring in an
additional $125.00! Now, those 125 persons turn around and post
the MINIMUM 200 with my name at #3 and only receive 5 replies
each, I will make an additional $626.00! OK, now here is the fun
part, each of those 625 persons post a MINIMUM 200 letters with
my name at #2 and they each only receive 5 replies, that just
made me $3,125.00!!! Those 3,125 persons will all deliver this
message to 200 newsgroups with my name at #1 and if still 5
persons per 200 newsgroups react I will receive $2365,00! With
a original investment of only $6.00! AMAZING! When your name is
no longer on the list, you just take the latest posting in the
newsgroups, and send out another $6.00 to names on the list,
putting your name at number 6 again. And start posting again.
The thing to remember is, do you realize that thousands of
people all over the world are joining the internet and reading
these articles everyday, JUST LIKE YOU are now!! So can you
afford $6.00 and see if it really works?? I think so... People
have said, "what if the plan is played out and no one sends you
the money? So what! What are the chances of that happening when
there are tons of new honest users and new honest people who are
joining the internet and newsgroups everyday and are willing to
give it a try? Estimates are at 20,000 to 50,000 new users,
every day, with thousands of those joining the actual internet.
Remember, play FAIRLY please! This ensures a huge circle of
wealth that grows with the internet audience!!! Everyone
benefits!!! Remember to send the six envelopes to the above
addresses, in order to create the legal service. At first I was
TOO SCARED to try this but I researched it and its totally legal.
If you send the six envelopes out, you create a service, a legal
service. The Internet audience is expanding all the time. The
audience is like a equity stock on the stock market,
continuously going up. This system was made for the purpose
of accumulating money fast and honestly. Once again THIS IS
NOT A CHAIN LETTER! But perfectly legal(refer to Title 18,
Section 1302 and 1341 of the United States Postal and Lottery Laws.)
Posted by Fischer on April 28, 1999 at 13:21:38:
Just read in today's paper that the Winnipeg Humane Society, backed by the IFAW, is starting a campaign to stop the hunt in Manitoba. Hope we get the results of that court action in Kenora soon. A positive result could put an end to this crap once and for all. Though I have no doubt that if the anti's lose, they will appeal the decision all the way to the Supreme Court. After all, they have the money to do it, and it will just generate more money for their fund-raising (read pocket-lining).
Posted by Sid on April 26, 1999 at 18:20:02:
Which call do you use to locate turkeys. Good luck to everyone else.
Posted by Tackleberry on April 23, 1999 at 18:20:34:
In Reply to: Gun control and suicides posted by Fischer on March 09, 1999 at 15:17:28:
Hey Fischer,
You're not far off the mark. For those that know I'm a Constable at the University of Toronto Police, last year there was a suicide outside one of our buildings by a homeless man. He hung himself. When the body was searched, the reciept for the rope was found. Purchased an hour before at Canadian Tire. Here comes the legislation!!!!
Posted by Taclkberry on April 23, 1999 at 18:14:58:
In Reply to: Question about HG barrel lengths posted by Fischer on March 22, 1999 at 10:29:45:
The barrel lengths are prohibited from 105mm (or 4.13 inches) and shorter. The only thing is that they are Grandfathered from Feb.15, 1995. This means any gun possessed prior to that date legeally can be retained. The prohibition stands for attempting to aquire after that date. I believe the date is correct, but if not it does go back a ways.
Now, the barrel length for a revolver (if I'm not mistaken) includes the forcing cone. I'll take a look but I believe that is correct as well. Stay Safe,
Tack
Posted by Tackleberry on April 23, 1999 at 17:26:08:
In Reply to: Your opinions on the Ruger Mini-30 .308 posted by +++ on April 20, 1999 at 22:09:43:
I do not have any person experience (I have heard favourable comments), however I resently researched the ability to reload the 7.62 x 39mm with heavier bullets than the typical 123 - 125 grainers. The research was for my Chinese SKS (new detachable mag.) First, the Mini-30 (7.62 x 39mm) was originally made with a .308 bore. Now, the actual bore dia. is .311 to .312, which is actually .303 cal.. (just a little tight!!) I e-mailed and called "Rob" in ballistics at Seirra Bullets. The problem that was created was the popularity of the calibre the Mini-30 was and the "cheap surplus" ammo available. This ammo., as rob puts it, was "European" and in .311 to .312 dia. causing damage to the gun with .308 bores. I believe he said Ruger just increased the bore to allow the larger bullets. There is not a problem with using .308 bullets in the .311 bores, but they are not going to be tack drivers. If you can have reloading done it is possible to load 150's(appearently a load listed in Hodgens) and my project was to load minimum 150 to 180 gr.for the SKS. If you load .308 bullets you'll have a big variety.
As a parting note, I have found .303 cal. RNs in 180gr..
Safe Shooting,
Tack
Posted by bill gass on April 21, 1999 at 13:16:56:
In Reply to: Re: It all looks fake! posted by George melton on February 23, 1999 at 15:23:44:
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW YOUR REASONING FOR NOT BELIEVING THIS COULD BE A POSSIBLE WORLD RECORD
Posted by bill gass on April 21, 1999 at 13:15:29:
In Reply to: Re: It all looks fake! posted by George melton on February 23, 1999 at 15:23:44:
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW YOUR REASONING FOR NOT BELIEVING THIS COULD BE A POSSIBLE WORLD RECORD
Posted by bill gass on April 21, 1999 at 13:14:34:
In Reply to: Re: It all looks fake! posted by George melton on February 23, 1999 at 15:23:44:
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW YOUR REASONING FOR NOT BELIEVING ABOUT THIS NEW POSSIBLE WORLD RECORD
Posted by +++ on April 20, 1999 at 22:09:43:
I would like your opinions on the reliability and accuracy
of this particular firearm. Thanks for your response! Braden
Posted by cas on April 20, 1999 at 10:24:57:
If you go to Ontario Hunters the website they have a on -line Gunsmith there here is the addy
http://members.tripod.com/HuntingOntario
Posted by Steve Redgwell on April 19, 1999 at 14:14:53:
This was sent to me and I'm hoping someone can help. QUOTE I am trying to get data on a 303-7mm special. The rifle is a martini
converted about 30 years ago at the Rifle Ranch in Riverhurst, Sask. Can't find the
gunsmith. Does anyone have any data? UNQUOTE I don't know if he means 7mm/303 or 7mm/303 Epps (I have asked him and am
awaiting a reply). I am aware of Mr Epps' work and will be going to the shop this
week. I'm hoping some of you western shooters can help. Maybe you've had a
similar conversion done at River Ranch. If you have any data for either of these
wildcats, please email shooters@sympatico.ca. Thank You. If you are a reloader and have data on any 303 based wildcat I would like to hear
from you as well. Safe Shooting!
Steve Redgwell
Posted by kik on April 19, 1999 at 11:31:57:
kik
Posted by Sam on April 19, 1999 at 00:16:38:
In Reply to: Re: looking for a semi-auto shotgun posted by Kern on April 17, 1999 at 17:40:20:
I was hoping to spend, at the most, about $800.
I've heard good things about the Auto-5, does anybody know what a reasonable price is for a used one?
And are gas operated semi's that much trouble?
Thanks alot for your help
Sam
Posted by MIKE on April 18, 1999 at 08:27:13:
S&W .44MAG 29-3 2 1/2" BLUED-------- S&W .44MAG 29-3 6" NICKEL------- S&W .357MAG 586 6" NICKEL-----------
BROWNING CHALLENGER III .22 CALIBRE----------
STERLING ARMS MARK III 400 .380 CALIBRE (9MM SHORT)-----------
COLT GOVERNMENT SERIES 80 .45ACP FAC REQUIRED!!!!!!! I RESIDE IN BRAMPTON AND THESE FIREARMS CAN BE VIEWED IN OSHAWA WITH AN APPOINTMENT. SOME COME WITH ACCESSORIES. EMAIL ME FOR COMPLETE LISTING & PRICES........WILLING TO DEAL ALL AS A PACKAGE.
Posted by MIKE on April 18, 1999 at 08:25:30:
S&W .44MAG 29-3 2 1/2" BLUED
S&W .44MAG 29-3 6" NICKEL
S&W .357MAG 586 6" NICKEL
BROWNING CHALLENGER III .22 CALIBRE
STERLING ARMS MARK III 400 .380 CALIBRE (9MM SHORT)
COLT GOVERNMENT SERIES 80 .45ACP FAC REQUIRED!!!!!!! I RESIDE IN BRAMPTON AND THESE FIREARMS CAN BE VIEWED IN OSHAWA WITH AN APPOINTMENT. SOME COME WITH ACCESSORIES. EMAIL ME FOR COMPLETE LISTING & PRICES........WILLING TO DEAL ALL AS A PACKAGE.
Posted by Kern on April 17, 1999 at 17:40:20:
In Reply to: looking for a semi-auto shotgun posted by Sam on April 13, 1999 at 16:46:55:
Sam, you might also want to visit a local trap and skeet range and ask some of the regulars what they like to shoot. You really get to know a gun if your popping 150 rounds every weekend. You didnt say what your looking to spend but keep in mind some gas auto's are like women...if you dont pamper them, they make your life difficult. Also some autos have trouble spitting the hulls of light target loads = jams.
Posted by Kern on April 17, 1999 at 16:48:25:
Hey everyone....the hunting regs are posted for download at the MNR site listed at the top of the page.
Posted by lol on April 16, 1999 at 14:30:59:
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Posted by Shooter on April 15, 1999 at 13:45:14:
my webserver changed the address of my site. Dont know why but anyway.... new front page is at http://www.angelfire.com/la/outdoorspot/index.html or you can go right to the new mainpage at http://www.angelfire.com/la/outdoorspot/page57.html Shooter
Posted by Fischer on April 15, 1999 at 08:32:05:
In Reply to: Animal Rights Scam posted by John Bacon on April 14, 1999 at 22:36:15:
For years people have been mistakenly referring to this as the "Animal Rights Movement". It is a business, pure and simple. Witness the millions of dollars these organizations have at their disposal, that other, more responsible charities, could do so much good with. The executive officers of these BUSINESSES also draw obscene salaries. In the vast majority of cases, people donate to these businesses because they think they are donating to something like their local humane society. The average person doesn't understand the difference between animal welfare and animal rights. The Ontario Farm Animal Council is very much at the fore-front in exposing the obscenities perpetrated by these people under the guise of animal rights. Their website is still under construction, but is at:
www.ofac.org
Posted by John Bacon on April 14, 1999 at 22:36:15:
Just read my April 1999 Ontario Out of Doors magazine.
They had an interesting article on page 6 of the Angler &
Hunter Hotline. Brian Davies, founder of the I.F.A.W.
(International Fund for Animal Welfare) has found a way to
get rich from the animal right movement. He is charging
the I.F.A.W. $2,500,000 to use his name. So much for his
dedication to the animals.
Posted by MARK on April 14, 1999 at 11:33:43:
In Reply to: looking for a semi-auto shotgun posted by Sam on April 13, 1999 at 16:46:55:
Hey Sam, I've pretty much shot every semi on the market:
european, american and spanish. My choice by far
for a good all round semi at a reasonable price
is the Remington 11-87 , 3" chamber. I have used
mine for everything geese,ducks,turkey,small game
etc and I have never had a problem, buy a deer
barrel and off you go! Just my two cents.... regards
Posted by Jacob Feather on April 13, 1999 at 21:21:07:
In Reply to: coyote hunting tips posted by George Melton on January 16, 1999 at 16:23:07:
I was wondering what is the best bate for coyotes and were to put it.
Posted by Sam on April 13, 1999 at 16:46:55:
I thinking about purchasing a semi-auto shotgun for waterfowl, with maybe geese and turkey possibilties. I was wondering if I could get any input on makes and models that people really like. In addition, I may be interested in using the shotgun for some deer. Any input would be great
Thanks
Sam
Posted by Hunter90 on April 11, 1999 at 21:43:47:
In Reply to: New hunting Site -- I have place a Hunting Chat room on the site posted by Mike on March 22, 1999 at 13:49:38:
Great site it will take off!! and it was made for us ontario hunters I hope we use the site, and get the chat rooms going, keep up the good work Mike I will be in touch and offer my help its about time Ontario hunters get a site like that.
Posted by Doct on April 08, 1999 at 21:06:06:
Hunters...please visit the Lake St Clair Waterfowler at http://www.miducks.com
Posted by michael gevedon on April 08, 1999 at 14:47:30:
In Reply to: Re: Crows posted by bryan on March 14, 1998 at 22:11:59:
I really like crow hunting. I do it alot. Please send me some info on crow hunting.
Posted by michael gevedon on April 08, 1999 at 14:45:59:
In Reply to: Re: Crows posted by bryan on March 14, 1998 at 22:11:59:
I really like crow hunting. I do it alot. Please send me some info on crow hunting.
Posted by B.Farrell on April 08, 1999 at 04:20:00:
You can now make reports of poaching and other Wildlife Crimes on line at the Wildlife Crime web site. We have designed a system to enable you to fill in all the details and then the report will be forwarded to the local MNR office where the crime took place. Check it out, give it a practice run if you want, have some fun with it, just be sure you use a correct email address and put TEST in brackets on the line with your name. And I would appreciate it if you followed thru with the conformation message, just to be sure the system works and has no bugs. Once you have it all figured out don't forget to come back and use it when you spot a poacher. There is no limits or slot sizes on Poachers this year so you can catch as many as you wish, just don't try to fillet them. Bruce http://www.execulink.com/~fishboat/wildlife/ Or click on the Crime Stoppers link on the Fish Board
Posted by Ron on April 02, 1999 at 20:57:08:
Remington M700 Sendero SF in 300WinMag, 26" barrel. Also icluded are 2 sets of reloaded dies, RCBS and Hornady
New-Dimension dies. Bought brand new from Gagnon on Dec.1/97.Approx. 600rds fired. Price, $800.00 Sorry, no
scope or mounts included and FAC required.
Posted by RICHARD RYDZIK RLR OUTFITTERS on April 01, 1999 at 17:15:46:
In Reply to: Saskatchewan Disgrace posted by Dave Brown on March 31, 1998 at 22:04:04:
I AM SORRY YOU HAD TO COME ACCROSS ONE OF SASK'S WORST OUTFITTER. WE DO OFFER SOME OF THE BEST WHITETAIL IN THE WORLD PLUS THE BIRD HUNTING & FISHING. I HOPE THAT YOU WOULD GIVE SASK'S ANOTHER CHANCE. HAVE YOU CALLED THE OUTFITTER ASS TO DEAL WITH THIS PERSON PLUS OUR TOURSIM DEPT, PLUS THE SASK GOV'T S.E.R.M. THANKS FOR YOU TIME.
Posted by Ken on March 31, 1999 at 12:59:11:
In Reply to: IF YOU ARE A TRUE HUNTER, READ THIS NOW! posted by Adam from Ohio on February 18, 1999 at 12:49:32:
I think Its a hoax. Hes a scally wag
and a liar!
Posted by Drew on March 31, 1999 at 12:11:17:
In Reply to: Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail posted by Steve Bond on November 23, 1998 at 20:42:41:
This buck is of amazing proportion and the biggest that I have ever seen. If the story is true than I would like to congratulate Mitch on the kill, but if the story is a fraud I will be disgraced to be a whitetail hunter.
Posted by Sid on March 28, 1999 at 22:02:28:
In Reply to: Re: TURKEY SEASON! posted by Brad on March 27, 1999 at 17:10:03:
Open season - April 26 to May 21.
Cost is about $20. One day course.
Posted by Brad on March 27, 1999 at 17:10:03:
In Reply to: Re: TURKEY SEASON! posted by WEST on March 12, 1999 at 22:39:26:
just wondering Im starting to get interested in turkey hunting and I was just wondering when does it open and how much is the coarse.
I've been seeing alot of turkeys around my place infact about 10 yesterday and a whole bunch during the deer hunt. thanks for the info.
Brad
Posted by Steve Bond on March 27, 1999 at 08:04:43:
Just a reminder that the Bowmanville Big Buck Day is tomorrow. Doors open at 9. Garnett B. Rickard Recreation Center at the corner of Regional Rd 57 (Waverly) and Highway 2.
Posted by Jaan on March 24, 1999 at 22:52:56:
In Reply to: Looking for Red posted by Fischer on March 18, 1999 at 10:29:11:
Predictably, when directed by Andy (via myself and then directly) to move the thread, Red disappeared. He was even so dumb as to interpret the comment as an order by Andy to boot me off the board. I guess he knew that if he came over here, he would be hammered. I guess he got his jollies by mouthing off and after a final jab, disappearing back into the woodwork. Good riddance!
Posted by Hunter on March 23, 1999 at 11:49:51:
In Reply to: New hunting Site -- I have place a Hunting Chat room on the site posted by Mike on March 22, 1999 at 13:49:38:
Great site!!! I hope all of us Ontario hunters take advantage of the site, I have not found a ontario hunting site like that on the net. Lets try and get that chat room going fellow hunters, keep up the good work Mike.
Posted by Mike on March 23, 1999 at 06:01:51:
In Reply to: New hunting Site -- I have place a Hunting Chat room on the site posted by Mike on March 22, 1999 at 13:49:38:
I've been there, posted messages and have bookmarked your site...........I think you're doing a great job and your site is spectacular...............everyone.............go visit it...........Mike PS: i'm not the Mike who started that site......just in case you were thinking it!!!!!!!
Posted by Mike on March 23, 1999 at 05:59:50:
In Reply to: Re: Looking for Red posted by Fischer on March 22, 1999 at 16:06:43:
Well, that's what i'm saying.......no bargins.........you get caught with a firearm in the commision of a criminal offence.........you do the time!!!!!!!!! NO IFS AND OR BUTS!!!!!!!!!! Do away with this plea bargaining bullsh*t and the world would be a better place!!!!!!!!!!! Once again, just my 2 cents worth.............Mike
Posted by Mike on March 23, 1999 at 05:56:42:
In Reply to: Question about HG barrel lengths posted by Fischer on March 22, 1999 at 10:29:45:
I'm not 100% sure, but I do believe a 2 1/2" barrel in now considered a restricted prohibited firearm, in that if you don't already won one you cannot aquire one, but if you do own one you can aquire one!!! Stupid law, but that's the way it is. To get a true & proper answer, go to the Canadian Firearms Centre web site. Good luck & hope this helps....Mike
http://www.cfc-ccaf.gc.ca/Default_en.htm
Posted by John Bacon on March 22, 1999 at 22:48:09:
In Reply to: Spring Bear posted by Shooter on March 03, 1999 at 00:07:34:
Check out http://www.nofinshing.net/
There are links to an antihunting site as well.
They have targetted General Mills for featuring
pro-fisherman Denny Brauer on Wheaties boxes. You
can send your support to General Mills at:
http://www.wheaties.com or http://www.genmills.com
(hunters & fisherman need to work together on this)
In general we need to support companies & polititions
that support hunting & fishing. If someone sponsers
a hunting/fishing event, thank them. If they
support groups like PETA, send a letter to promote
hunting & fishing. We need to make more noise then
PETA and others like them. There are more of us
then there are of them, so it shouldn't be a
problem.
P.S. Next time you go to buy a new car. As them if
they use Husky equipment. Tell them you don't
want to deal with a company that supports him. If
they don't buy his equipment, he won't have any
money to use against us.
Posted by John Bacon on March 22, 1999 at 22:20:31:
In Reply to: Spring Bear posted by Shooter on March 03, 1999 at 00:07:34:
There definitley won't be any hunting this spring. OFAH is launching court action, so maybe next year.
Posted by John Bacon on March 22, 1999 at 22:16:02:
In Reply to: Ontario Out Of Doors Magazine posted by Sid on March 11, 1999 at 17:26:28:
Re: OOD mostly about fishing
There are more fisherman in Ontario than hunters.
Thus, fishing articles draw more reader than hunting articles.
Posted by Fischer on March 22, 1999 at 16:06:43:
In Reply to: Re: Looking for Red posted by MIKE on March 19, 1999 at 05:57:16:
I believe they already tried that. In 1978 they imposed an automatic 5 years for use of a gun in the commmission of a crime. Unfortunately, the law didn't work because these charges were routinely plea-bargained away. Law isn't worth much if it isn't enforced.
Posted by Mike on March 22, 1999 at 13:54:11:
In Reply to: Question about HG barrel lengths posted by Fischer on March 22, 1999 at 10:29:45:
If you visit my new hunting site Ontario Hunters
you will notice I have a link to a on-line gunsmith on my site, maybe you can get the help you need there here is the adress to my site.
http://members.tripod.com/HuntingOntario/
Posted by Mike on March 22, 1999 at 13:49:38:
I now have chat rooms on the site, 1 hunting and 1 fishing so you can chat with each other and I fixed up my survey page I now have all the questions on one page, I have place a picture of the two bucks I shot in one day, during the controlled shotgun hunt, here is the addey:
http://members.tripod.com/HuntingOntario/
Posted by Fischer on March 22, 1999 at 10:29:45:
Had a discussion with a buddy on the weekend re: restricted barrel lengths (I think 2 1/2" bbls will be illegal). The question is: is the barrel length measure from the frame, the forcing cone or the back of the cylinder? In a self-loader, is the barrel length measured from the chamber, where the rim of the casing sits when the slide is closed? If so,why shouldn't revolvers be measured the same way? On any revolver, this would increase the "barrel" length by at least one inch. I imagine this is an issue that the courts will have to resolve. Any comments?
Posted by Jaan on March 21, 1999 at 09:56:09:
In Reply to: Looking for Red posted by Fischer on March 18, 1999 at 10:29:11:
I suspect that you will not find him. He and his friend started the gun control discussion, questioned my statements, put words (and motives) in my mouth, posted facts they did not understand, and then blamed me for wrecking the fish board, and claimed victory! Real bunch of winners. I am not sure you would want to find either because they seem both unwilling and unable to post a reasoned discussion - so save your breath for someone worth talking to.
Posted by Nick on March 19, 1999 at 23:42:22:
In Reply to: I have built a hunting site for ontario hunters posted by mike on March 14, 1999 at 02:49:02:
Mike, Just to say that I looked over your web site and to say the least
it looks GREAT!! A must see for others on the web that are into hunting!
I'll ge bookmarking this one and will be returning to it in the future to send
a picture or two. Nick
Posted by MIKE on March 19, 1999 at 05:57:16:
In Reply to: Looking for Red posted by Fischer on March 18, 1999 at 10:29:11:
YOU WANT CRIME CONTROL????
What I would suggest is, if you are convicted of a criminal offence involving a firearm, you automatically get 10 years in prison with no parole!!!!!! After you have served your 10 years, you then serve whatever time has been given for the crime you have committed, murder, robbery, assault, whatever. If the criminal lknew they were going to do 10 years, no if ands or buts about it, then maybe, they'd think twice about using a firearm, thus eventaully allowing us law abidding firearms owners to enjoy our sport in peace!!!!!!!!!!! just my .02 cents worth............Mike
Posted by Fischer on March 18, 1999 at 10:29:11:
Explain to me how a majority of Canadians could agree with restrictions on law-abiding citizens that will cost over a billion dollars yet will do nothing to reduce crime and yet will take police officers off the street, reducing enforcemnt? Explain to me how this law is going to stop a criminal from buying a stolen or smuggled gun, and how it will tell the cop that stops him that he has it (before he shoots the cop)?
Posted by gerry on March 17, 1999 at 11:23:11:
In Reply to: IF YOU ARE A TRUE HUNTER, READ THIS NOW! posted by Adam from Ohio on February 18, 1999 at 12:49:32:
hunting caps off to Adam from Ohio
Posted by Mona Verma on March 17, 1999 at 10:34:48:
In Reply to: Re: Snowshoe Hare posted by Jack on September 18, 1998 at 17:21:07:
I am doing a research article on snowshoe hare and the various adapatations it has for winter weather.
Please if you have any information e-mail me. Thank you.
Posted by Mona Verma on March 17, 1999 at 10:34:24:
In Reply to: Re: Snowshoe Hare posted by Jack on September 18, 1998 at 17:21:07:
I am doing a research article on snowshoe hare and the various adapatations it has for winter weather.
Please if you have any iformation e-mail me. Thank you.
Posted by Glenn Springer on March 16, 1999 at 06:51:01:
FAC Firearms Academy Canada runs the new firearms license courses and administers the exams. In a new location as of April 1st, within walking distance of the Downsview subway station, we are almost as convenient as we are professional. (Information on the new location isn't yet on our website -- another day or two!). We offer both the non-restricted and the restricted firearms courses and exams, as well as the Ontario Hunter Education program. Check out our website for great information:
http://www.guns.to Glenn Springer
Master Instructor
Chief Instructor, FAC Firearms Academy Canada
glenn@guns.to
Posted by mike on March 14, 1999 at 02:49:02:
I am just about done rebuilding my hunting site for Ontario hunters and need a little help to finnish of some pages, and I have 5 message boards,voting page,trophy picture page,hunting tips,anti-hunter page,pictures of the world record white-tail on page,plus more stuff so why dont you come and have a look maybe you can help me finnish a few pages,or if you have a few ideas I can make the site as big as I want. Come have a look http://members.tripod.com/HuntingOntario/
Posted by WEST on March 12, 1999 at 22:39:26:
In Reply to: Re: TURKEY SEASON! posted by Sid on March 12, 1999 at 17:38:04:
Hey Sid, Thanks for the info and good luck this season!
Posted by Sid on March 12, 1999 at 17:38:04:
In Reply to: TURKEY SEASON! posted by WEST on March 12, 1999 at 11:36:37:
The course teaches you about the history of the turkey, habitat, calling, loads, equipment, and most of all, safety.
I'll be heading out with two freinds, no experience, but we know there are turkeys on the plot of land. Just hope I get to at least see or hear one, let alone get to shoot at one!
Posted by Sid on March 12, 1999 at 17:28:26:
In Reply to: Re: Ontario Out Of Doors Magazine posted by Kern on March 12, 1999 at 07:50:30:
I never been out for turkey. I did my course last year but didn't get a chance to get out. I mostly hunt small game. Rabbits, grouse, ducks, and geese. Last year I purchased a lab. I've been training him myself so far, but I'll be taking him to retriever classes soon. For the past two years, I've gone out for deer. Missed my first deer two years ago. And as for last year, did't see a thing. Later...
Posted by WEST on March 12, 1999 at 11:36:37:
Hey guys, Just wondering about the turkey course I'm signed up for the
one at the end of March. Is it useful? This will be my first
turkey season and I'm actually going with a friend of mine
that is a guide to learn the ropes. Any tips pointers?
Good luck this season!!!
Posted by Kern on March 12, 1999 at 07:50:30:
In Reply to: Ontario Out Of Doors Magazine posted by Sid on March 11, 1999 at 17:26:28:
Hi Sid,
Wecome to the board!! I did the turkey course last year but didnt get a chance to go out so this year wil be my first. What do you use for turkey? What else do you hunt?
Posted by Sid on March 11, 1999 at 17:26:28:
I'm an OFAH member and recieve the OOD Magazine.
Why is it that the magazine deals mostly with fishing? Anybody getting ready for turkey?
This will be my first time out. Seeing that last year
I missed the deadline for getting my license/tag.
Posted by HA HA on March 11, 1999 at 05:46:16:
In Reply to: Re: Gun control and suicides posted by Steve on March 10, 1999 at 07:57:25:
Your weapon provided it has a barrell of 4" or longer as anything under 4" is considered restricted and you cannot posses it anyway!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Shooter on March 11, 1999 at 00:09:52:
In Reply to: First timer posted by Sid on March 10, 1999 at 17:45:10:
Glad to hear from you. Posting will increase as seasons draw nearer. Feel free to visit my website at www.angelfire.com/la/outdoorspot Nuthing for sale, no gimmicks, just fishing/hunting info for SW Ontario. I will update the hunting page as soon as seasons are announced. Shooter
Posted by Nick on March 10, 1999 at 23:57:17:
In Reply to: First timer posted by Sid on March 10, 1999 at 17:45:10:
Sid, Glad to have you on with us. Hope to see you posting in the future. Nick
Posted by Sid on March 10, 1999 at 17:45:10:
Hi everyone. Been reading your reports for awhile now.
Kinda funny how with so many hunters out there, there's
only a handful of people using this site.
Hope to contribute more in the future.
Posted by Roo on March 10, 1999 at 14:12:55:
In Reply to: Snowshoe Hare posted by Moccasin Trail Beagles on September 18, 1998 at 12:55:21:
Hi I am studing Snowshoe hare plese sent my some information about them
Thank you,
Roo
Posted by Steve on March 10, 1999 at 07:57:25:
In Reply to: Gun control and suicides posted by Fischer on March 09, 1999 at 15:17:28:
I wonder what they'd want us to register in order to stop rape.
Posted by shaun harrington on March 09, 1999 at 21:37:28:
In Reply to: Re: Small Game posted by Skyman on December 22, 1998 at 01:55:02:
This was a good year for southeastern ont.
WMU #66,64,65.
Lots of rabbits and grouse in these areas.
Didn't get my limit every day but was very pleased with the number of animals that were jumped.Best season in the last 18 years.
Posted by Jack on March 09, 1999 at 18:54:08:
In Reply to: Gun control and suicides posted by Fischer on March 09, 1999 at 15:17:28:
No, they will not register rope, they are going to request us to register our cutlery.
Posted by Steve Bond on March 09, 1999 at 18:13:55:
Circle this date on your calendars. Sunday March 28 will mark the fourth annual Bowmanville Big Buck Day at the Garnett B. Rickard Recreational Complex. It's located at the northwest corner of Hwy 2 and Waverly Road (also known as Regional Road 57). According to the flyer I have, antlers not previously measured byt FROW or those measured after April 1998 are eligible. You have to enter before 12:30 PM to be eligible for prizes. I've covered all of them for Big Buck Magazine and if you want to see some first class Ontario whitetails, come on out. If anyone needs more information, e-mail me at stevcher@interlinks.net
Posted by Fischer on March 09, 1999 at 15:17:28:
Read a column in the Calgary Sun that says for the first time, in Alberta, the number of suicides by hanging has surpassed the number of suicides by gun. Gun control fanatics are hailing this as proof that gun control works. However, they are forgetting that the number of suicides didn't change, only the method. The real shame is that the gov't won't take the time and trouble to realistically treat the disease. Guess they're going to register rope next! Here's the link: http://www.canoe.ca/Columnists/kaufmann.html
Posted by Boone on March 08, 1999 at 20:35:09:
In Reply to: poss.world record buck posted by steve on March 05, 1999 at 22:05:31:
The hunter apparently still hasn't had the rack officially scored. No Boone & Crockett scorer has submitted a score sheet. The hunter was scheduled to have the rack at a couple of outdoor shows in the US in Feb, but was a no-show. General consensus is that the whole issue is a scam. Milo Hanson is officially still number 1.
Posted by Tim Reed on March 08, 1999 at 01:08:18:
In Reply to: Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail posted by Steve Bond on November 23, 1998 at 20:42:41:
I heard that Mitch used to score for B&C. I also heard that something happened and he lost he job. It is rumored that is the reason that he want let them score it and put it in their record books. Just a rumor, I don't know how true it is
Posted by Bob McNally on March 07, 1999 at 03:11:09:
In Reply to: Re: Make a difference on the bear ban issue posted by Steve on February 10, 1999 at 07:55:29:
I haven't dropped into this site for awhile so I wouldn't have seen either post previously. I was really surprised at the ministers about face after telling us not too
long ago that he would increase opportunities for hunting....ya right... I haven't hunted bear in the spring for about 10 years now. I have shot 2
in the fall season while deer hunting. A big one in 1985 and my last one
was in 1992. I buy a bear tag each year ($24) even though I don't
actively hunt specifically for them because I figured my money was going
to a good cause...Bear Management by the MNR. Well even though I didn't get out spring bear hunting...the
"OPPORTUNITY" was there. With the "New" approach that MNR is taking
towards bear management I guess they don't need my money anymore
since the AR's have decided they'd take over making the payments... Too bad but they can drop dead if they think I will spend another "¢" on
buying a bear tag!
Too bad the bears lose too by this decision as I'm sure I'm not the only
one who won't buy a licence again. Not sure how they figure this will protect sows with cubs when it has
been illegal to hunt sows with cubs in the spring for some time now. I guess my deer hunting is next on their list... Regards... Bob
Posted by steve on March 05, 1999 at 22:05:31:
Has anyone heard anymore on this buck lately? Has he had it scored or what?
Posted by Shooter on March 03, 1999 at 00:07:34:
whats the latest word on the spring bear hunt? Are we screwed or what? Shooter
www.angelfire.com/la/outdoorpsot
Posted by jparks on February 27, 1999 at 21:02:19:
In Reply to: Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail posted by www.freepress.com on February 26, 1999 at 08:00:53:
I want a picture for my wallpaper.
Posted by Skyman on February 27, 1999 at 16:12:55:
Well I just saw a 12 pt Buck wander across the road. Don't they usually lose their antlers by now?
Posted by Dave on February 26, 1999 at 12:26:40:
In Reply to: trouter1@hotmail.com posted by Question for the Moose hunters. on February 07, 1999 at 20:00:06:
For the all-purpose rifle,I would recommend the 30-06. Work'd like a charm on everything if you know where to shoot.
If on the cheap side however, try an old Lee-Enfield in .303 British. They can easily be found for around 100$. The 150 gr. bullets are pretty well identicle to the same weight of bullet in the 308 in terms of ballistics. Best to keep shots with this under 275yds. though.
Posted by www.freepress.com on February 26, 1999 at 08:00:53:
In Reply to: Possable New World Record Whitetail posted by Hoyt on November 22, 1998 at 15:20:03:
Posted by Megamarks on February 25, 1999 at 21:07:35:
In Reply to: Possable New World Record Whitetail posted by Hoyt on November 22, 1998 at 15:20:03:
Just wanted to point out that there is no `a' in the word `possible.'
Posted by Ron on February 25, 1999 at 10:21:57:
Remington M700 Sendero SF in 300WinMag, 26" barrel. Also icluded
are 2 sets of reloaded dies, RCBS and Hornady New-Dimension dies.
Bought brand new from Gagnon on Dec.1/97.Approx. 600rds fired. FIRM price, $800.00
Sorry, no scope or mounts included and FAC required.
Why I'm selling? About 4 mouths ago the extractor broke. Sent the
bolt to Gagnon for warranty work, Gagnon sent the bolt to another
gunsmith who then LOST the bolt. Well, NO ONE on either side
wanted to take responsiblity for the lost I had to WAIT 4 months
for the problem to be solved. In the mean time I ended up purchacing
a Rem M700 VS .308 which I really enjoy shooting. Now with the new 308
I won't be shooting the 300 any more so that is why I'm selling it.
BTW the 300 still shoots great groups with proper handloads.
If anyone is interest in purchasing the 300 can e-mail me at
seamstr@idirect.com
Posted by Shooter on February 23, 1999 at 18:05:38:
In Reply to: Re: steel shot posted by bg on February 23, 1999 at 08:54:45:
in the fall of 1997, all Canada was to go steel. After some quick negotiations, they let up on the use of steel on inland areas away from natural water sources, but only for 2 years. During the fall of 97 and 98 you then had the opportunity to shoot up your lead in fields. Beginning 99 fall... all steel None of the Native Reserves that I know of are recognizing the steel law, and are saying they never will. Sell your left over lead loads to Natives. Oh ya i forgot.... its illegal for you to sell shells unless your a dealer. Shooter www.angelfire.com/la/outdoorspot
Posted by George melton on February 23, 1999 at 15:23:44:
In Reply to: Re: It all looks fake! posted by shelby on January 26, 1999 at 17:47:20:
What is the true story I would like to know.
George
Posted by bg on February 23, 1999 at 08:54:45:
In Reply to: Re: steel shot posted by Kern on February 23, 1999 at 08:09:27:
Actually the literature has been consistent in its message that by September, 1999, non-toxic shot must be used for ducks and geese everywhere.
Posted by Kern on February 23, 1999 at 08:09:27:
In Reply to: steel shot posted by Nick on February 22, 1999 at 20:29:42:
I heard the same, actually if you read the booklet that came with last years duck licence it mentions the eventual banning of lead shot completely for all hunting. I dont think there was any mention of a time table to do this. It would think that we would get some kind of warning for when this comes into affect so we can get rid of what we have.
Posted by Nick on February 22, 1999 at 20:29:42:
I spoke with another recently who advised me that we will have to use steel
everywhere (fields) this upcoming season. Has anyone heard about this ?? Nick
Posted by Nick on February 22, 1999 at 20:27:39:
In Reply to: Geese posted by Kern on February 18, 1999 at 10:27:11:
Well Kern still have not seen any geese except in your area. Did you ever get out ??
Posted by Jack on February 22, 1999 at 20:02:06:
Got nothing to do. Write to your favour MPP and let them know what you feel. Don't wait for another person to do it. Don't complain when we loose another privledge and then complain that the government doesn't know what they are doing. They know what they are doing,- they are listing to those who take the time to write. DO IT KNOW!!!
Posted by mark on February 22, 1999 at 19:45:31:
In Reply to: Re: It all looks fake! posted by shelby on January 26, 1999 at 17:47:20:
would like real story
Posted by Alma on February 21, 1999 at 18:20:06:
In Reply to: Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail posted by Taxidermist on February 01, 1999 at 23:12:19:
Where is the picture
Posted by anonymous on February 20, 1999 at 16:19:48:
In Reply to: Re: Snowshoe Hare posted by Jack on September 18, 1998 at 17:21:07:
I am doing a biology research on the snowshoe hare
and would appreciate any information that you might
be able to provide me for assistance with my project.
Posted by Adam from Ohio on February 18, 1999 at 12:49:32:
In Reply to: Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail posted by gwiz on February 09, 1999 at 02:28:34:
To All: I am an 18 year-old whitetail enthusiest from Ohio. I am enrolled in college to become a wildlife photographer. I just have a few comments on this great buck: I amazes me to see such knowlegable hunters to stoop so low as to portray shear jealousy of this man and his trophy. Just because one offense about the man's past is brought to the public, everyone jumps bad on him. I brings utter shame to the sport when anti's look at this page and all the rude comments flying left an right, and I would rather not be identified with such a group of people...other than to speak my peace. In closing, I would just like to congratulate Mr. Rampola on his magnificient achievement. If it were anyone else, the same turmoil would surface as well...nobody is perfect.
Posted by Kern on February 18, 1999 at 10:27:11:
Has anyone been out for Geese??? Any Luck??
Posted by Paul on February 18, 1999 at 04:20:42:
In Reply to: Calls posted by Dave on September 10, 1998 at 21:25:47:
I have 5 half breeds. You cant go wrong by getting one. Practice Practice, Practice! I guarantee you'll turn more geese.
Posted by Brad Bergstad on February 17, 1999 at 20:56:18:
In Reply to: Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail posted by Steve Bond on November 23, 1998 at 20:42:41:
Why doesn't anyone hear anything anymore about this great buck. Come on what is there to hide let us other hunters who dream of something like this see it come true for you.
Posted by Ron Thompson on February 16, 1999 at 04:52:58:
If this e-mail got to you by error I am very sorry. You have at one time
been intouch with http://www.kenora-ontario.com
This message pertains to our fight with the Ontario Government regarding the
cancellation of the spring bear hunt.
Remember this is only the beginning. First bears, then deer, moose,water
fowl, then possibly fishing. snowmobiling and other related outdoor
activities. Please do not say IT CANNOT HAPPEN. We thought that of the
Spring bear hunt too. It CAN!!! and it can happen in all provinces in
Canada.
The following is a link to an article in the Kenora Daily Miner and News. I
believe it hits the Nail on the Head as to what we must do to protect what
we have left in our outdoors recreation. http://www.kenora-ontario.com/firewithfire.htm also please view the entire site
http://www.kenora-ontario.com
for other links for further information, and personal comments by others and
myself. Some resorts have made their comments. If you wish , just e-mail
them to me and I will post them to this site, and others. Ron Thompson
thompson@voyageur.ca
Posted by Kern on February 15, 1999 at 15:30:43:
In Reply to: turkey calls posted by Stefan on February 13, 1999 at 12:42:53:
Gagnon in Oshawa has a good selection.
Posted by Jack on February 14, 1999 at 08:59:47:
The Ontario Grand River Chapter of the NORTH AMERICAN VERSATILE HUNTING DOG ASSOCIATION is hosting their annual meeting in Guelph. Interested parties my contact me at my E-Mail address for additioal information. Persons wanting to learn more about the NORTH AMERICAN VERSATILE DOG ASSOC. may find them @ http://www.navhda.org/
Posted by Stefan on February 13, 1999 at 12:42:53:
Does anyone know of a store with a wide selection of turkey
calls in the Toronto area?
Thanks, Stefan
Posted by Jerry Burton on February 13, 1999 at 11:30:23:
In Reply to: Re: Bowfishing posted by Kern on February 12, 1999 at 22:02:42:
I've used the Retriever Bowfishing Reel the past 2
seasons and found it to be very good. Fast and easy to use but expensive, around $75.00. Check out their web site. http://marsh.pcpros.net/~ams/retriever.html
Posted by Shooter on February 13, 1999 at 01:50:30:
In Reply to: Re: 12 gauge bolt action posted by Kern on February 12, 1999 at 21:56:35:
If i remember correctly, Mossberg made the 500 pump for Sears which went under Sears brand. Sears did sell a bolt and it wasnt mossbergs. May have been JC Higgins as JCH did contract for many companies. Shooter www.angelfire.com/la/outdoorspot
Posted by Shooter on February 13, 1999 at 01:50:18:
In Reply to: Re: 12 gauge bolt action posted by Kern on February 12, 1999 at 21:56:35:
If i remember correctly, Mossberg made the 500 pump for Sears which went under Sears brand. Sears did sell a bolt and it wasnt mossbergs. May have been JC Higgins as JCH did contract for many companies. Shooter
www.angelfire.com/la/outdoorspot
Posted by Kern on February 12, 1999 at 22:02:42:
In Reply to: Bowfishing posted by ORION on February 12, 1999 at 13:59:25:
Hi Orion,
Someone asked the same question on the fishing page, you might want to check it out..
http://www.zoo.utoronto.ca/FUN/Fmessages/899.html
Posted by Kern on February 12, 1999 at 21:56:35:
In Reply to: 12 gauge bolt action posted by Ruko on February 12, 1999 at 20:29:57:
Hi Ruko,
I could be wrong on this, its been 20 years since Ive seen a bolt action 12 ga. But didnt Mossberg make those for Sears??? Hopefully someone else can shed some light on this.
Posted by Ruko on February 12, 1999 at 20:29:57:
I'm looking for a stock for a SEARS AND ROBUCK J C HIGGINS model 583.20 12 gauge bolt action any help would be appriciated
Posted by ORION on February 12, 1999 at 13:59:25:
I'm just getting into bowfishing (I'm going to try to put Scugog carp on the endangered list)
-(don't worry, I eat them)-
anyway, I need a reel. I heard spincasters are good for bowfishing, and J&D's (free plug) tried to sell me a fly reel.
Any suggestions? Thanks, ORION
Posted by MIKE on February 11, 1999 at 05:53:52:
GARMIN GPS12XL IN EXCELLENT CONDITION.........6 MONTHS OLD........WORKS GREAT IN THE WOODS WITH HEAVY COVER, HUNTING, FISHING, HIKING.......IT LISTS FOR $385.94 PLUS TAXES @ LEBARONS.........COMPLETE WITH INSTRUCTION MANUEL........GIVE ME $375.00 & IT'S YOURS!!!!!!! I'M IN BRAMPTON.........IF INTERESTED....EMAIL ME...........MIKE
Posted by Steve on February 10, 1999 at 07:55:29:
In Reply to: Make a difference on the bear ban issue posted by Robert Goudreault on February 09, 1999 at 20:06:34:
Robert, I've been plugging away at this issue since it was first announced and I'm a little disappointed in the reactions from this board. The same topic has generated way more discussion and support on the fishing board. FYI, there's a big rally in North Bay this Saturday at the Capital Center, 150 Main Street, North Bay Ontario. It's right in Harris' riding. I posted this last week and there has been exactly zero comments. I've written my letters (don't forget the local MPP's) and haven't given up. If only half of all Ontario fishermen and hunters belonged to OFAH, this probably wouldn't have gotten as far as it did.
Posted by Mike C on February 09, 1999 at 21:13:25:
In Reply to: Re: Spring Bear Hunt posted by Fischer on January 28, 1999 at 14:45:14:
have you ever known the government to bo things properly
as the saying goes "what makes a good politicion is a bad lawyer".
Posted by Mike C on February 09, 1999 at 21:00:55:
In Reply to: Bear Hunt Rally posted by Steve Bond on February 05, 1999 at 20:51:51:
Does the Ontario Bear Assn. have a website
if so could you e mail it to me please.
Posted by Mike C on February 09, 1999 at 20:53:06:
In Reply to: trouter1@hotmail.com posted by Question for the Moose hunters. on February 07, 1999 at 20:00:06:
I use a Savage110E 30-06 Bolt rifle with a Tasco
3-9x32 scope and SPRG. 150GR.HI-SHOK SOFT POINT
bullets from Federal. Very accurate at short or long
range. They definately do the job. I've put down both
moose and bear with this combo and it's instant,
the anamal was down before the bang was finished.
You can also get Remington SPRG. 30-06 Accelerator
55 grain 22 shot cartridges for small game to use in
the same gun, not bad for close accuracy.
Posted by Robert Goudreault on February 09, 1999 at 20:06:34:
When law are changed, there are ways to oppose their decisions throught our democratic rights and freedoms. In this case we can be protected by the Environmental Bill of Rights. We need to send as many letters opposing the cancellation of the bear hunt before Feb. 20/99 with the EBR# RB9E6001 as a reference #, to Snobelen and Harris. Here are the fax # Snobelen 1-705-755-2117
Mail: The Hon. John Snobelen
MNR
6 Th Floor Whitney Block,
99 Wellesly Street West
Toronto, On.
M7A 1W3
Mike Harris FAx# 1-416-325-7578
Mail: PRemier Mike Harris
Queen's Park
Toronto,On.
M7A 1A1
MAKE A DIFFERENCE SEND A FAX OR LETTER AND GIVE THIS TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS. THE OFAH HAS THEIR LAWYERS WORKING ON THIS ISSUE RIGHT NOW! JOIN THE OFAH AND UNITE AS ONE BIG FORCE!
Posted by gwiz on February 09, 1999 at 02:28:34:
In Reply to: Possable New World Record Whitetail posted by Hoyt on November 22, 1998 at 15:20:03:
where the hell did my follow up go.
Posted by Mitch Rompola on February 09, 1999 at 02:19:15:
In Reply to: Re: It has been scored so rumor has it! posted by mark on February 08, 1999 at 23:43:34:
I'm glad to see so many of you seek the truth.
The truth should always be more important than
anything else, so I will tell you the truth.
Years ago I decided to break away from my
hunting buddies and do it alone. You see, they
were bad luck. I never spotted a single buck that
would score above 150 much less get a shot at one.
So I started hunting by myself in Traverse County,
Michigan...at night. You see, I realized that you
can see more bucks with a spot light in one night
than you can in an entire season of hard hunting
during legal shooting hours!
So I found this area where the swamps were
thick. I had seen many monsters when I thought of
this trick. I had decided to shoot the big bucks
at night, when they were blinded by my high
powered light. I would find them in the morning,
dead where they had stood. Then I would push my
arrow through the hole, as hard as I could. The
man at the check station, he's a real bum, he
looked only at the tag and sent me on my way, man
is he dumb! This went on for years and my
reputation grew, I was losing interest when I
decided what to do. Strap some fake sheds to a
fat buck's head, announce it as a record but hide
it instead. I'll make thousands from endorsements
and interviews and maybe a seminar or two. Then
in 61 days I'll be off like a prom dress, isn't
that what you would do. Don't be sad, or mad,
but be glad, for a record is still out there to be
had. I used the name "Mitch Rompola" to get as many
hits as possible. I hope it worked. To be
truthful, I really do hope Mitch's story and buck
are 100% real. The man would be my hunting idol.
But in the meantime, to those of you irate about
all the pessimism, understand that the truth is
more important than anything. If those who seek
the truth were not so bold, then when will the
truth ever be told.
Derrick
told
Posted by mark on February 08, 1999 at 23:43:34:
In Reply to: It has been scored so rumor has it! posted by Rick on January 26, 1999 at 09:28:59:
I think its a fake otherwise the pansyass would have had it scored and registered the day after the 60 day drying period!!!!
Posted by Simon on February 08, 1999 at 19:11:31:
In Reply to: Re: Crossbows posted by Tackleberry on February 06, 1999 at 02:20:41:
I was hoping to be able to still purchase one under the old regs. From http://www.cfc-ccaf.gc.ca/owners%5Fusers/comments/crossbo%5Fen.html which is an info page on cross bows you still can until April 1, 1999. I do not purposefully do anything illegal.
Posted by Steve Bond on February 08, 1999 at 18:18:02:
In Reply to: The cancellation of the spring bear hunt is only the beginning!!! posted by Mark P. on February 07, 1999 at 20:54:16:
This is EXACTLY why I posted the notice about the rally in North Bay this coming Saturday. It is VERY important that we take this threat seriously. I've been warning in my columns for three years now about these animal rights looneys and until now, looks like no one took me seriously. For those of you who think that regular hunting and fishing will never be touched, just think.... until three weeks ago, we thought that about our spring bear hunt too.
Posted by Braden on February 08, 1999 at 12:15:23:
In Reply to: trouter1@hotmail.com posted by Question for the Moose hunters. on February 07, 1999 at 20:00:06:
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Posted by MIKE on February 08, 1999 at 06:00:35:
In Reply to: trouter1@hotmail.com posted by Question for the Moose hunters. on February 07, 1999 at 20:00:06:
I use a Remington 742 30.06 for moose & deer........great gun and a great variety or bullets available........hope this is of some help to you......good luck & good shooting!!!!!!!!
Posted by Shooter on February 08, 1999 at 01:20:34:
Anyone interested in Coumbia Quad Parkas? I have a line on some "seconds", various camos for $210 Canadian (no tax). sizes are limited, mostly larges. Other items as well Shooter
www.angelfire.com/la/outdoorspot
Posted by Shooter on February 08, 1999 at 00:27:10:
In Reply to: trouter1@hotmail.com posted by Question for the Moose hunters. on February 07, 1999 at 20:00:06:
I shoot a Rem 30.06 pump carbine. Is nice to carry around the bush. For more open shooting of medium to big game I have a Savage 300 mag bolt with variable scope. Savage is an economically priced firearm but holds up well. Glad i bought it! Shooter
www.angelfire.com/la/outdoorspot
Posted by Mark Gregg on February 07, 1999 at 21:54:31:
If you think that the cancellation of the spring bear hunt is an isolated incident, you are sadly mistaken. The point was well made this weekend on the CBC when at the end of a debate the lawyer for The Animal Aliiance stated the her group is against all forms of Sport Hunting. It was also mentioned this weekend that a ban on duck hunting in Provincial Parks such as Rondeau, Long Point and Presquile should be adopted. It is obvious that the attempt
at banning all hunting and fishing has only begun to gather
steam! We as angler's and hunter's must make it our goal
to make the general public aware of our heritage and love
of such pursuits. Sitting idly by will only result in the loss of
Hunting and Fishing privileges indefinitely. It has become painfully obvious that we are in for a political and social fight to keep such sports alive. It is time to make our opinions count, for we as a group both in numbers and
spending power have the ability to take the Anti's head on.
The future of our fishing and hunting heritage depends on the actions we begin to take today !!!!! Regards,
Mark
Posted by Mark Gregg on February 07, 1999 at 21:53:01:
If you think that the cancellation of the spring bear hunt is an isolated incident, you are sadly mistaken. The point was well made this weekend on the CBC when at the end of a debate the lawyer for The Animal Aliiance stated the her group is against all forms of Sport Hunting. It was also mentioned this weekend that a ban on duck hunting in Provincial Parks such as Rondeau, Long Point and Presquile should be adopted. It is obvious that the attempt
at banning all hunting and fishing has only begun to gather
steam! We as angler's and hunter's must make it our goal
to make the general public aware of our heritage and love
of such pursuits. Sitting idly by will only result in the loss of
Hunting and Fishing privileges indefinitely. It has become painfully obvious that we are in for a political and social fight to keep such sports alive. It is time to make our opinions count, for we as a group both in numbers and
spending power have the ability to take the Anti's head on.
The future of our fishing and hunting heritage depends on the actions we begin to take today !!!!! Regards,
Mark
Posted by Mark Gregg on February 07, 1999 at 21:52:06:
If you think that the cancellation of the spring bear hunt is an isolated incident, you are sadly mistaken. The point was well made this weekend on the CBC when at the end of a debate the lawyer for The Animal Aliiance stated the her group is against all forms of Sport Hunting. It was also mentioned this weekend that a ban on duck hunting in Provincial Parks such as Rondeau, Long Point and Presquile should be adopted. It is obvious that the attempt
at banning all hunting and fishing has only begun to gather
steam! We as angler's and hunter's must make it our goal
to make the general public aware of our heritage and love
of such pursuits. Sitting idly by will only result in the loss of
Hunting and Fishing privileges indefinitely. It has become painfully obvious that we are in for a political and social fight to keep such sports alive. It is time to make our opinions count, for we as a group both in numbers and
spending power have the ability to take the Anti's head on.
The future of our fishing and hunting heritage depends on the actions we begin to take today !!!!! Regards,
Mark
Posted by Ruko on February 07, 1999 at 20:58:23:
In Reply to: Re: trouter1@hotmail.com posted by Steve Redgwell on February 07, 1999 at 20:11:39:
30/06 is the only way to it is very versitile you can get220 grain bullets down to 50 grain bullets , you can for bear ,moose,deer,varmit,etc
safe shootin
Posted by Ruko on February 07, 1999 at 20:58:20:
In Reply to: Re: trouter1@hotmail.com posted by Steve Redgwell on February 07, 1999 at 20:11:39:
30/06 is the only way to it is very versitile you can get220 grain bullets down to 50 grain bullets , you can for bear ,moose,deer,varmit,etc
safe shootin
Posted by Mark P. on February 07, 1999 at 20:54:16:
It is very important to note specifically the reasoning for the cancelation of the spring bear hunt. Ministry studies? the orphaning of bear cubs? the baiting technique? NO!!! The cancellation was due to the government giving in to
the threat of well funded lobbyists. I sat through a very
interesting debate held at the CBC this weekend where
NOTO reps and the lawyer for the Animal Aliance were present. At the conclusion of the debate over cancelling
the bear hunt a very simple question was asked specifically
to the Animal Alliance Lawyer: is your organiztion against
all sport hunting? She simply replied YES!!!! This group
was the key factor in the cancellation of the annual hunt.
It is only a matter of time before the entire sport is threatened! If you think this view is alarmist or far fetched
you are simply kidding yourselves!! It was also reported this
weekend that the banning of duck hunting in Presqu'ile
Provincial Park should be adopted soon. This is simply
a call to all those that enjoy hunting, fishing and the shooting sports and consider it part of their heritage. It is time to speak up and make our views public , we cannot sit on the fence and hope everything will take care of itself.
The future of our rights as Hunters and Angler's depend on the actions we take today in order to safeguard this great
heritage for the furure.
Regards!
Posted by Steve Redgwell on February 07, 1999 at 20:11:39:
In Reply to: trouter1@hotmail.com posted by Question for the Moose hunters. on February 07, 1999 at 20:00:06:
Dependability, versatility, availability of rifle/ammunition 30/06. Price/availability of ammunition 303 British
Others 270 Win, 7x57, 45/70. The list is long. Safe Shooting! - Steve
Posted by Braden on February 07, 1999 at 20:01:38:
In Reply to: Public Acsess hunting areas?? posted by Braden on January 31, 1999 at 21:18:27:
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Posted by Question for the Moose hunters. on February 07, 1999 at 20:00:06:
Have been invited along for a moose hunt this fall (provided a
tag is aquired). Am looking for opinions on the most versatile
caliber rifle for this type of hunt. My only experience
is with the 22 calibres, and I need your opinions on a
gun that is reasonably priced, hard hitting enough to drop a
moose, yet can be used for bear, or perhaps even deer with lighter
bullet weights. Thank you for your input. Braden
Posted by MIKE on February 07, 1999 at 06:22:41:
In Reply to: Re: C68 New Licencing & You !! posted by Tackleberry on February 06, 1999 at 20:29:57:
Thanks for the response..........you do sound like you have the qualifications to state what you are stating...........keep up the good work..........Mike
Posted by Mike on February 07, 1999 at 06:21:15:
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Posted by Tackleberry on February 06, 1999 at 22:43:16:
HERE ARE THE SET FEES
POSSESSION LICENCES ONLY; this is the sliding scale for all three (3) type (Non-rest., Rest., Proh) in effect from Dec1'98 to Nov.30'99 $10.....Dec'99 to June 2000 $45 ....... After July 1 2000 $60.
POSSESSION & AQUISITION LICENCE ; Non-rest. $60 Rest.$80 Proh $80 Cross-bow $60
POSSESSION LICENCE OF MINORS: period upto 1 yr. $10 more than 1yr. and not 2yrs $20.... more than 2yrs. $30
REGISTRATION CERTIFICATE CONTAINED WITH AN APPLICATION (for possession only); Non-rest. Dec'98 to Sept.30'99 $10....Oct.'99 to June 2000 $14 ....After July 2000 $18
FEES FOR EACH REGISTRATION CRETIFICATE ; (newly aquired or transfered firearms) for all three(3) types $25
Any questions or enquiries the Fireams Centre's # 1 800 731-4000 Shoot Safe Tack
Posted by Tacklleberry on February 06, 1999 at 21:13:28:
In Reply to: Re: C68 New Licencing & You !! posted by Tackleberry on February 06, 1999 at 20:29:57:
Well ask and you shall recieve. Afew minutes ago I openned the latest mailing from the Chief Provincial Firearms Officer, guess what I now have, a chart showing the Licence Requirement & required material and class time.
I'll list this by #'s since I have found I can not produce a "chart like" form. (1)Course requirement (2) Material to be covered (3) Min. hours of Instr. (4) Test required
MINORS LICENCE (1) CFSC manditory (2) sec 1 to 9 CFSC Non-rest. manual (3) 10hrs. (4) CFSC exam written & practical POSSESSION LICENCE ONLY (1) no requirement (2) N/A (3) N/A (4) no requirement POSSESSION & AQUISITION LICENCE (NON-REST.) (1) CFSC Optional (2) sec. 1 to9 CFSC Non-rest.manual (3) 10 hours (4) CFSC exam written & practical manditory POSSESSION & AQUISITION LICENCE (RESTR.) (1) CFSC & CRFSC Optional (2) sec 1 to 9 CFSC & sec 3,4,5,6 & 8 CRFSC (3) 16 hrs. (4) CFSC & CRFSC both written & practical exams manditory There also is a notation here that states the CRFSC can be given as a stand alone course, however an applicant must still be examined with the CFSC for licencing purposes.
There you have it folks, hot off the presses right from the horses mouth so tho speak. Shoot Safe,
Tack
Posted by Tackleberry on February 06, 1999 at 20:37:16:
In Reply to: Re: C68 New Licencing & You !! posted by Kern on February 06, 1999 at 18:28:49:
Hi Kern ,"I'm back"
At this point in time, if you apply to for a possession only **NO** test is required. Stay Safe Tack
Posted by Tackleberry on February 06, 1999 at 20:29:57:
In Reply to: C68 New Licencing & You !! posted by Tackleberry on February 06, 1999 at 03:34:03:
Thankyou for your nice replies Mike & Kern. I'll try to answer both enquiries. As a certified instructor for the Province of Ontario I am supplied with updates which explain the practical applications of the legislation. Along with this I had to attend an eight hour upgrade class for the new restricted course. As a side point, if anyone is looking for an instructor/examiner in their area, contact your local Firearms Officer at the local police office. They have an up to date list of all instructors in the Province.
Let's see.... Kern, I think your question (I can't look back and see without sending this now) dealt with "Possession Licence" vs "Possession & Aquisition Licence" (the following will relate to either Non-rest. or Rest. except Rest. requires both tests)
Possession Only Licence.... is to maintain the collection currently owned. I will be honist and say that I'm not sure the process, once the Possession Only is held and someone wishes to "upgrade to an aquisition" . Regarding Non-rest., not much has changed from the process. (since C17 ) As far as class time and setup go, the Non-rest. is a stand alone course and the Rest. is a stand alone course. This translates to a minium of ten hours each. I still have to look into the suggestion that "I" can combine the two if the students request it.(we are ALL learning the limitations right now)(I will pass on what I learn on this) Cost of course/test is still set by the the instructors. I have heard stories about a variety of prices. The procedures for the classes still stand, the instructor can not examine. I hope this helps, thanks again, I'm glad this forum is available. I have to run, I'll look and see if I covered your questions, if not I'll be back . (no pune intended Arnnie!) Tack
Posted by Brian Moreland on February 06, 1999 at 18:30:23:
In Reply to: Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail posted by Steve Bond on November 23, 1998 at 20:42:41:
Where can I find a photograph of this record whitetail buck/
Posted by Kern on February 06, 1999 at 18:28:49:
In Reply to: C68 New Licencing & You !! posted by Tackleberry on February 06, 1999 at 03:34:03:
Hi Tackleberry, havent seen you on here in a while!! I thought I heard someone say that there will be a different certificate for those who "own" and those who "own and aquire". Is this the case?? if so, what are the difference's in courses, costs, ect???
My FAC expires in April and if there is a big difference in the two permits, Im thinkin maybe I should go out and get all my toys now!! BTW, my wish list is full of "long guns" only. I have no desire to go through the hassle of owning restricked fire arms.
Posted by Mike on February 06, 1999 at 06:29:36:
In Reply to: C68 New Licencing & You !! posted by Tackleberry on February 06, 1999 at 03:34:03:
Not to sound rude, but what are your qualifications??? How do know how to interrput the legislation???? Not been rude, just curious...........Mike
Posted by Tackleberry on February 06, 1999 at 03:34:03:
There have been a number of statements thrown around since the legislation coming into force. I would like to help clear up a few points. CURRENTLY VALID "FAC's"
An FAC that was issued prior to Dec 1st,1998 and has an expiry date in 1999 and beyond will remain valid and is considered to be a FIREARMS POSSESSION (Non-restricted & RESTRICTED) AND AQUISITION LICENCE until such time as the expiry date has been reached. What does this mean? Well since the FAC was issued with the ability to purchase both Non-restricted & Restricted Firearms (and the qualifying test reflected this) it will stay in force as is. Caution!!!! while it is still valid it is recognized as a Possession as well as an Aquistion Licence. Great care must be taken to ensure a renewal has been made prior to the expiration date. If this date is reached without a renewal processed then you would be open to criminal charges.
MANDITORY ATTENDANCE FOR CANADIAN FIREARM SAFETY COURSE
There is two criterias, 1/ a minor wishing to obtain a MINOR"S PERMIT, and 2/ an adult wishing to obtain a Firearms Licence after a Court Ordered Prohibition. These are the ****ONLY*** two (2) reasons for it being manditory. The licence is still renewed every five (5) years, the test ** IS MANDITORY ** at the time of each renewal. I know there is some opposition to this one , but I would suggest some people need that done for drivers licence. REGISTRATION OF FIREARMS
Unlike the Possession & Aquistion Licences, Firearm Registration is only done once, unless the ownership changes. FIREARMS TESTS
As stated above, the test is manditory for a first time application or at each renewals. C68 developed a multi-leveled licencing system. Three levels exist, however only two will be an option for most, especially for new comers to the sport.
3/ PROHIBITED- a variety exist the present owners will know who they are 2/ RESTRICTED- a variety of "long guns" & "handguns" anyone can aquire 1/ Non-resticted- "typical long guns" for a variety of sports A licenced owner only requires ONE LICENCE. If a person owned a resticted firearm prior to C17 (1992) or C68 (1998) coming into force and that firearm was deemed "prohibited" "BUT Grandfathered" it is veiwed as a "restricted" firearm (in practice). This means the licence is a Prohibited Possession (optional Aquisition) Licence, it also allows for the possession (and optional aquisition) of both Restricted and Non-restricted firearms.
This means (taken from list above) the level of licence you have will allow possession (& optional aquistion) of that level and below. Since there are now two (2) courses/tests, you must determine your need or future interests(aquistions). **If your interest is to own a Non-resticted Firearm, then you must be examined with the Canadian Firearms Safety Test, and achieve an 80% or better. HOWEVER, If your interests take you into the Resticted Class, then you must be tested on the Canadian Restricted Firearms Safety Test and achieve an 80% or higher AS WELL AS the Canadian Fireams Safety Test with the 80% or higher. The two (2) tests are administered to cover the "duel" licence. ** A Licence to Purchase a Cross Bow is a "Non-restricted Firearms Licence" About Tackleberry;
I'm a Constable with the University of Toronto Police and have been a Certified Instructor for the Canadian Firearms Safety Course for the past four years, and recently certified for the Canadian Restricted Firearms Safety Course.
Contact: Wellington Firearms Educational Service
#7 Lindsay Court Guelph ON N1E 6S9
OR
e-mail: timothy_morden@campuslife.utoronto.ca
Posted by Tackleberry on February 06, 1999 at 03:32:41:
There have been a number of statements thrown around since the legislation coming into force. I would like to help clear up a few points. CURRENTLY VALID "FAC's"
An FAC that was issued prior to Dec 1st,1998 and has an expiry date in 1999 and beyond will remain valid and is considered to be a FIREARMS POSSESSION (Non-restricted & RESTRICTED) AND AQUISITION LICENCE until such time as the expiry date has been reached. What does this mean? Well since the FAC was issued with the ability to purchase both Non-restricted & Restricted Firearms (and the qualifying test reflected this) it will stay in force as is. Caution!!!! while it is still valid it is recognized as a Possession as well as an Aquistion Licence. Great care must be taken to ensure a renewal has been made prior to the expiration date. If this date is reached without a renewal processed then you would be open to criminal charges.
MANDITORY ATTENDANCE FOR CANADIAN FIREARM SAFETY COURSE
There is two criterias, 1/ a minor wishing to obtain a MINOR"S PERMIT, and 2/ an adult wishing to obtain a Firearms Licence after a Court Ordered Prohibition. These are the ****ONLY*** two (2) reasons for it being manditory. The licence is still renewed every five (5) years, the test ** IS MANDITORY ** at the time of each renewal. I know there is some opposition to this one , but I would suggest some people need that done for drivers licence. REGISTRATION OF FIREARMS
Unlike the Possession & Aquistion Licences, Firearm Registration is only done once, unless the ownership changes. FIREARMS TESTS
As stated above, the test is manditory for a first time application or at each renewals. C68 developed a multi-leveled licencing system. Three levels exist, however only two will be an option for most, especially for new comers to the sport.
3/ PROHIBITED- a variety exist the present owners will know who they are
2/ RESTRICTED- a variety of "long guns" & "handguns" anyone can aquire
1/ Non-resticted- "typical long guns" for a variety of sports A licenced owner only requires ONE LICENCE. If a person owned a resticted firearm prior to C17 (1992) or C68 (1998) coming into force and that firearm was deemed "prohibited" "BUT Grandfathered" it is veiwed as a "restricted" firearm (in practice). This means the licence is a Prohibited Possession (optional Aquisition) Licence, it also allows for the possession (and optional aquisition) of both Restricted and Non-restricted firearms.
This means (taken from list above) the level of licence you have will allow possession (& optional aquistion) of that level and below. Since there are now two (2) courses/tests, you must determine your need or future interests(aquistions). **If your interest is to own a Non-resticted Firearm, then you must be examined with the Canadian Firearms Safety Test, and achieve an 80% or better. HOWEVER, If your interests take you into the Resticted Class, then you must be tested on the Canadian Restricted Firearms Safety Test and achieve an 80% or higher AS WELL AS the Canadian Fireams Safety Test with the 80% or higher. The two (2) tests are administered to cover the "duel" licence. ** A Licence to Purchase a Cross Bow is a "Non-restricted Firearms Licence" About Tackleberry;
I'm a Constable with the University of Toronto Police and have been a Certified Instructor for the Canadian Firearms Safety Course for the past four years, and recently certified for the Canadian Restricted Firearms Safety Course.
Contact: Wellington Firearms Educational Service
#7 Lindsay Court Guelph ON N1E 6S9
OR
e-mail: timothy_morden@campuslife.utoronto.ca
Posted by Tackleberry on February 06, 1999 at 02:20:41:
In Reply to: Crossbows posted by Simon on February 02, 1999 at 19:50:29:
Hey Brother,
You're also two months too late for "legally" purchasing one. The legislation came into force Dec. 1st, 1998. Since that time you are required to produce a valid "FAC" or a Firearms Possession and Aquisition Licence (Non-restricted minimum). I'm assuming thatyour "...just to spite the Govern't" statement is to obtain one without following the new act...... Stay Safe,
Tack
Posted by b. alsbrook on February 05, 1999 at 23:18:24:
In Reply to: Rompola buck scored (maybe?) posted by Rick on January 26, 1999 at 09:33:48:
have you ever smelled a skunk but couldn't tell just exactly where it was? i think i smell one here.
Posted by Steve Bond on February 05, 1999 at 20:51:51:
Just found out today there will be a massive rally right in Mike Harris' backyard on Feb 13 in North Bay Ontario. It will be at the Capital Center, 150 Main Street, North Bay. Their phone number is (705)474-4747. There will be top government officials, members of the Ontario Bear Assn, OFAH, NOTO and others. If you love our heritage and want to preserve it, please try and attend. It's a 4 hour drive for me one way and I'm giving up a $400 assignment for one of the magazines I write for, but I'm going!! If I didn't do this, I'd hate myself for not trying. This rally is just one week before the Feb 20 deadline for the letters to be in to the Ministry. I've got the phone number of one of the main organizers. E-mail me at stevcher@interlinks.net and I'll send it to you. The phone number posted is just for the Capital Center
Posted by Chris on February 04, 1999 at 20:37:05:
Are you looking for a winter project to keep you busy?
Do you need a box type stand for the fields you hunt in, or a tree climber?
Build them now before hunting season rush gets here!
Posted by Brad on February 03, 1999 at 20:41:33:
In Reply to: Crossbows posted by Simon on February 02, 1999 at 19:50:29:
Man your about a week to late i just sold my horton stag 150 lb with everything for 140 bucks.
i just bought a 160lb draw excalibre exocet and i love it. Bagged my first bear last spring and a deer this fall its ecellent but a bit pricie.
I'd check into hortons there fairly cheap and the one i had got me a big bull 2 years ago!
Posted by Brad on February 03, 1999 at 13:51:46:
In Reply to: Re: ducks/geese posted by Anynomous on February 03, 1999 at 10:56:51:
What the hell! oh funny guy.
Actually i think it would be more of a challenge if they could hunt me as well.
I'm game anyone else.
Anonomous? to chicken to fight for your point of view?
ducks look so good in a frying pan! Let me tell you!
The taste i crave it everytime I blow one out of the sky!
Posted by Anynomous on February 03, 1999 at 10:56:51:
In Reply to: ducks/geese posted by Brad on December 19, 1998 at 11:53:43:
you guys are sick!!! how could you hunt an animal that
never did anything to you!! I wish the tables could
turn and the ducks could hunt the hunters.
Posted by Skyman on February 02, 1999 at 23:26:10:
In Reply to: Public Acsess hunting areas?? posted by Braden on January 31, 1999 at 21:18:27:
I'm not one hundread percent sure but I think hunting is allowed in the Ganaraska just north of Newcastle.
Posted by Darin on February 02, 1999 at 23:05:29:
In Reply to: Things you see from your deer stand! posted by Hoyt on October 11, 1998 at 07:24:08:
One quiet morning while hunting the edge of a beanfield I was nearly shook from my treestand by a turkey who also thought "This looks like a good spot"
Posted by Simon on February 02, 1999 at 19:50:29:
New regs. coming down for crosbows. I would like to purchase one before the new regs take place but know nothing about them. I may not even ever use it but I'd like to have one all the same just to spite the goverment. They all seem to be 150 lb draw weight although last year lebarons sold a 180 lb draw. They do not offer it anymore. Any body got any good info for me on what I need to know about crossbows or have one for sale cheap in the Kawartha-Haliburton area?
Posted by Bob McNally on February 02, 1999 at 13:29:51:
In Reply to: where are we from posted by Jack, from Niagara on January 03, 1999 at 08:50:31:
Hi All
Haven't been here for a few weeks...popped in to see whats up with the cancellation of the spring bear hunt.
I'm from Ottawa, Ont and love hunting partridge, deer (gun & bow), ducks (used to but lost the dog last fall), geese and not to forget 4 years of spring turkey! Haven't had the opportunity to go after moose but maybe some year. Didn't get out much this past fall...too much time on this thing!! See you Bob
Posted by Kern on February 02, 1999 at 08:54:04:
In Reply to: Public Acsess hunting areas?? posted by Braden on January 31, 1999 at 21:18:27:
Darlington Provincial Park lets hunters take ducks there in the fall. You have to pay to get into the park and you can only shhot from the few blinds that are set up. First come first serve basis. I live about 2 mins from there but Ive never tried it. Holland marsh is another place for early geese, during the duck season you really need a canoe. There is some dry land around the Holland marsh hunting area but im not sure how much. Tiny marsh is up north of barrie, again really good for the early goose hunt. The MNR feeds the ducks and geese there in the summer for the bird watchers and come fall there's alot to shoot at. Opener for geese has no restrictions but the duck opener has a limit of about 200 hunters and shooting stops at 12 noon.
In October you can shoot released pheasants for 25 bucks and you have to have a dog. Finally, there is Nonquon, north of port perry between hwy 2 on the east 12 on the west from 6th consession up to 12. Its a irregular shapped chunk of land surronded by farms and also has a dog training facility on it, you can get a map of the area from the MNR office in Lindsay. This place is mostly swamp and holds quite a few ducks in the fall. Because of the amount of hunters everything is usually scared off by October. There is also rabbits and grouse in there as well sometimes your tripping over them others you wont see anything. Come November, the place is full of deer and deer hunters.
If you look in the hunting guide you can see all these places and more. These are only the ones close to Toronto.
Hope this helps you.
Posted by Taxidermist on February 01, 1999 at 23:12:19:
In Reply to: Possable New World Record Whitetail posted by Hoyt on November 22, 1998 at 15:20:03:
I have seen thousands of w/t deer from Michigan and can say I know what I'm talking about when, I say that the deer in the photo w/Mitch Could NOT have been shot on Nov 13, not anywhere in Michigan. The deer in the photo has a short haired hide which is not possible at the time which Mitch says he killed this deer. And if you don't beleive me compare his picture to one of the deer you or someone else shot has shot around the same time of year. Look at the brisket area of his deer and then look yours , look at the short hair around the ears, then look at yours. Beleive Me NOW!!
Posted by Mike on February 01, 1999 at 06:01:24:
In Reply to: Re: News Media posted by Steve on January 31, 1999 at 22:27:58:
Thanks for the compliment...ha..ha....yeah it's been a while....i've also fished at Taunton Rd and just north of there, I have an uncle who lives on Ceda Valley & the creek runs right through his property there with a nice deep hole on an S bend...pulled many a fine speciman out of there.......as for the Tannery, it had a bike bridge over it when I last fished it & it's about time it was posted....that was like shooting goldfish in a bowl there....not to mention a snaggers paradise..........take care.........Mike
Posted by Mike on February 01, 1999 at 06:00:04:
In Reply to: Re: News Media posted by Steve on January 31, 1999 at 22:27:58:
Thanks for the compliment...ha..ha....yeah it's been a while....i've also fished at Taunton Rd and just north of there, I have an uncle who lives on Ceda Valley & the creek runs right through his property there with a nice deep hole on an S bend...pulled many a fine speciman out of there.......as for the Tannery...it's about time it was posted....that was like shooting goldfish in a bowl there....not to mention a snaggers paradise..........take care.........Mike
Posted by Steve on January 31, 1999 at 22:27:58:
In Reply to: Re: News Media posted by MIKE on January 30, 1999 at 07:56:28:
Wow, Mike you ARE an old timer. I too used to fish the "Tannery Pool" but you'd never recognize it now. The bike path has a bridge that goes right over where the dam used to be and the pool itself has bene posted as a sanctuary for a number of years now. Doesnt' stop the yardbirds from fishing there tho. I chase about 10 to 20 a year from there. I use the old "Conservation Officer is just down the creek" bit. Works almost every time. There are lots of good holes still however. I used to fish up at Taunton for years and had it pretty well to myself even on opening day with no one around until it got popular. Then the idiots started using it as a party zone and I could see there was gonna be trouble, so I don't go there anymore.
Posted by Braden on January 31, 1999 at 21:18:27:
Looking for public Acess areas for small game within 1 1/2 hours
of Toronto area. The closer the better. Thanks in advance. Braden
Posted by Jerry on January 31, 1999 at 02:20:38:
In Reply to: Can U Recommend an Outfitter? posted by RonG on January 30, 1999 at 19:31:52:
Can't really recommend one, but we do have listings for most outfitters at our site. http://wildwings.net Best advise is to talk to all of them, you have a interes with. Tell them your skill level and discuss their method of hunting to make sure they think along the lines you are for a best hunt. It will cost you less to do your research below than after and you find out you had the worst outfitter for what you were wanting to do.
Jerry
Posted by Shooter on January 30, 1999 at 21:30:29:
In Reply to: Behind the scenes at the bear hunt posted by Steve Bond on January 28, 1999 at 19:44:42:
FYI: "HUSKY INJECTION MOLDING SYSTEMS LTD
fax (905 857-4589)" Shooter
Posted by Shooter on January 30, 1999 at 21:04:41:
In Reply to: Behind the scenes at the bear hunt posted by Steve Bond on January 28, 1999 at 19:44:42:
Just pulled this off the net. Try running the company title on any web search engine and you will find many many items that uses Schad systems, most of them very environmentally unfreindly.
Shooter "HUSKY INJECTION MOLDING SYSTEMS LTD. TO TRADE ON THE TORONTO STOCK EXCHANGE -- November 5, 1998
November 5, 1998 (TORONTO) -- The Common shares of Husky Injection Molding Systems Ltd. will begin trading on the Toronto Stock Exchange on Monday, November 9, 1998.
Stock Symbol: "HKY" -- 114,000,000 Common shares are issued and outstanding. The company is a global supplier of injection molding equipment and services for the plastics industry. Head Office is located at 500 Queen Street South, Bolton, Ontario, L7E 5S5. The telephone number is (905) 951-5000. The President and Chief Executive Officer is Robert Schad."
Posted by RonG on January 30, 1999 at 19:31:52:
Looking to go big game hunting for the very first time this fall. I have a Remington chambered in 35 Whelan which I bought to handle deer, through moose. Can anyone out there help me out with a recommendation for an outfitter they've used? Looking for a (at least partially) guided hunt due to my rookie status. Prefer Ont, but thinking about further afield like Que, or Newfoundland. Moose preferred, but will consider a good deer, elk, or maybe caribou hunt (although I hear they're like hunting cattle!) Thanks in advance guys.
Posted by Steve on January 30, 1999 at 10:17:54:
In Reply to: Re: Ontario Out of Doors: What Happened? posted by Steve Redgwell on January 29, 1999 at 15:35:22:
Now I see where you were going with the new outdoors-persons. I guess us old timers get a little jaded about the bombardment of info available by various methods these days. When I was younger, there weren't any good TV shows for anglers or hunters that relayed any information at all. The only game in town was the Red Fisher show and I guess we were all supposed to be impressed just watching him fish. I did watch, however.
Posted by MIKE on January 30, 1999 at 07:56:28:
In Reply to: Re: News Media posted by Steve on January 28, 1999 at 19:35:45:
Wow, it's about time they did something with that bridge...it was a very dangerous place for cars & people......Oshawa must be doing good to build a bike path from Lakeview to Hwy. 2.........when I was living there, a path existed, more like a trail through the woods!!!!!! Is the fishing still good at the dam behind the old tannery???? Must head out to Oshawa one of these days to do some fishing and relive some memories.............Mike
Posted by Steve Redgwell on January 29, 1999 at 15:35:22:
In Reply to: Re: Ontario Out of Doors: What Happened? posted by Steve on January 28, 1999 at 22:11:58:
I was refering to the numbers of people that start fishing or hunting each year. What we see as old stories are very much new to these new readers. Agreed, it seemed to be a better layout before. They may not have the regional reports coming in like they used to. This is a question that I will send to them (among others). One thing that is nice is the insert. A good cost cutting measure for the OFAH and anything would be a help for OOD.
Safe Shooting!
Steve Redgwell
Posted by Fischer on January 29, 1999 at 15:17:23:
In Reply to: Behind the scenes at the bear hunt posted by Steve Bond on January 28, 1999 at 19:44:42:
I agree, kind of ironic, eh? Going to be pretty tough to organize a boycott of plastic bottles. Only satisfaction we may get is that the anti's tend to be very good at biting the hand that feeds them. Sooner or later, the benevolent Mr. Schad is going to become a target of his own cronies. Can't wait for the day they're picketing outside his environmentally unfriendly company. Or even more likely, one of the freaks decides to blow it up!!
Posted by Steve on January 28, 1999 at 22:20:15:
In Reply to: Re: Spring Bear Hunt posted by Kern on January 28, 1999 at 21:32:54:
Umm yeah, I guess I could, but then as a freelancer syndicating a column, if it doesn't run, then I don't get paid. I don't want to sound entirely mercinary but column writing is a fair portion of my income as a freelancer. Plus, if I don't try to get the message about ethical hunting through in every available media outlet I can, then we're playing right into their hands. Don't worry, the battle may be lost, but the war isn't over. I'm going to keep trying. Like I said before, I don't mind someone calling me on incorrect information, but it bothers me to have something pulled just because of differing views. Speaking of the media, did anyone see the bit in the Globe a week ago? Those Bay Street bozos are applauding the ban and want the fall hunt stopped also. I have written them a letter and told them I will not pick up their rag again. The world doesn't begin and end with stock options and mutual funds.
Posted by Steve on January 28, 1999 at 22:11:58:
In Reply to: Re: Ontario Out of Doors: What Happened? posted by Steve Redgwell on January 28, 1999 at 22:04:58:
Yeah but Steve, they've got a circulation of over 75,000 just with OFAH. How many new readers can they possibly have? I guess they're reputation is more, shall we say palatable, than Canadian Sportfishing. You know, one thing I used to really like about the old Out of Doors was where they'd take a certain lake and have a map with areas to fish, marinas, boat launches, restaurants etc. Then, the editorial would tell you about species, tecniques, areas and bait. I know the areas to fish would be a little lame now, but if someone was thinking of trying a new lake, it would be nice to know where the public launches were and where you could get gas, etc. It was good stuff. Wonder why they stopped that? I guess cause it had to be new evey month.
Posted by Steve Redgwell on January 28, 1999 at 22:04:58:
In Reply to: Ontario Out of Doors: What Happened? posted by Steve Redgwell on January 24, 1999 at 22:44:34:
Steve & Jack, I hear you both. I had a subscription to that mag (before the OFAH agreement) and stopped it because of the reruns. Every outdoor mag does the rerun thing. There are new readers every year and using the tried and true is always good to fall back on if you're a burned out editor. One thing I will say however, they beat out Cdn Sportfishing....
Safe Shooting! - Steve
Posted by Steve Redgwell on January 28, 1999 at 22:04:42:
In Reply to: Ontario Out of Doors: What Happened? posted by Steve Redgwell on January 24, 1999 at 22:44:34:
Steve & Jack, I hear you both. I had a subscription to that mag (before the OFAH agreement) and stopped it because of the reruns. Every outdoor mag does the rerun thing. There are new readers every year and using the tried and true is always good to fall back on if you're a burned out editor. One thing I will say however, they beat out Cdn Sportfishing....
Safe Shooting! - Steve
Posted by Kern on January 28, 1999 at 21:32:54:
In Reply to: Re: Spring Bear Hunt posted by Steve Bond on January 28, 1999 at 19:32:28:
It bothers me when someone tries to control what I can read and what I cant esp. when its based on their own narrow minded opinions. As editor I guess she has control of what the readers see, but as writter of your column, can you stop your column from going to her paper???
Posted by Steve Bond on January 28, 1999 at 19:44:42:
As we all know, the ban of the spring bear hunt was started by that guy who owns Husky Injection Molding, Robert Schad. He apparently took up a crusade to ban the hunt and has donated megabucks in ad campaigns to the animal rights looneys that presents hunting unfavourably. Does anyone else see the irony here? Schad is against the bear hunt, which is legal, ethical and pumps millions of dollars into the economy and back into conservation. With me so far? His company, Husky Injection Molding, manufactures machines (according to a posting by Kerr) that makes 2 liter plastic pop bottles, one of the largest contributors of litter we see along our creeks and green belts. I may not be the brightest guy in the world, but I don't think they're all that bio-degradeable either. So this guy elevates himself among the animal rights terrorists by taking up a noble cause to end the bear hunt while he makes millions of dollars with products that clutter up and pollute the environment. Am I missing something here?
Posted by Steve on January 28, 1999 at 19:35:45:
In Reply to: Re: News Media posted by Mike on January 28, 1999 at 05:37:16:
Hi Mike. They built a brand new bridge about 4 years ago so, of course, they screwed up the hole. Every time I fish there, I take a garbage bag and pick up all kinds of stuff. I've hoped to embarrass a few guys by my actions, but they seem oblivious to it. There's now a paved bike path from Lakeview Park all the way to Highway 2. Makes it easy to get around.
Posted by Steve Bond on January 28, 1999 at 19:32:28:
In Reply to: Spring Bear Hunt posted by Andy on January 26, 1999 at 16:11:59:
Interesting article in today's Toronto Sun about Ted Nugent apparently having in his possession a letter by John Snobelen written last year in favour of the spring bear hunt. To see it type http://www.canoe.ca/TorontoNews/ts.ts-01-28-0050.html in your browser or e-mail me at stevcher@interlinks.net and I'll send you the text. Interesting. Last year Snobelen says the spring is the BEST time to hunt bears as the females with cubs are most visible, now he says "it's abhorrent." I've written two columns on this for Oshawa / Whitby This Week that also runs in the surrounding areas. I'd like to give my editors credit for running the columns uncut and uncensored as I really ripped Snobelen and the Harris Tories for caving in to the animal rights minority. The Burlington Post, on the other hand, refused to run the first column because the editor (an animal rights favoring lady) doesn't like hunting. She says hunting has no place in a community like Burlington and the readers of her paper don't like it. I have trouble believing that an editor who rose up through the ranks as a reporter would censor someones opinion on an issue she doesn't side with. I have no trouble with someone questioning my facts and asking me to double check information for accuracy, but to be censored for participating in activities she doesn't like rankles me. Of course, as a freelancer, I really have no say in the matter. She says I run too many hunting columns but of the last 22, only 9 were hunting related. Go figure.
Posted by Fischer on January 28, 1999 at 14:45:14:
In Reply to: Spring Bear Hunt posted by Andy on January 26, 1999 at 16:11:59:
While I have already made my feelings known to the Minister and the Premier, I have to wonder about the futility of all this. Think about it...first Snobelen says that there is no danger to bear cubs...then he bans the hunt and calls it repugnant...and FINALLY, he calls for public input on it. Kind of like closing the barn door after the horse is out. It stinks. And I will tell Snobelen to his face if I see him at the fishing show again this year.
Posted by Peter Diavolitsis on January 28, 1999 at 11:00:51:
In Reply to: Spring Bear Hunt posted by Andy on January 26, 1999 at 16:11:59:
I think it is imperative that we muster up as much
support as possible from hunter's and
evironmentalists alike. If the spring bear hunt is
to be saved we must encourage as many people as
possible to voice their opinions to the MNR and the
Premiere. This is the only recourse we have
that may potentially help our cause. I think each
one of us is responsible to do what little they can
to support hunter's across ontario and elsewhere.
It would be extremely beneficial to post a note similar
to this one on the newsgroups etc. Lets hope for the
best.
Posted by Steve on January 28, 1999 at 08:05:58:
In Reply to: Ontario Out of Doors: What Happened? posted by Steve Redgwell on January 24, 1999 at 22:44:34:
If the majority of subscribers didn't get Out of Doors with their Federation membership, I doubt whether too many of us would read it. I think maybe they've gotten too complacent with a guaranteed circulation from OFAH membership. There's no new ideas. In April you get the rainbow trout rehash, in May we review the walleye, June is Bass and so on and so on. It's the same tired stuff every year. As for hunting, in November, they trot out the usual deer hunting secret tips that we've seen for the last ten years. When the South Central Big Game Association held their first "Big Buck Day" a couple of years ago, Out of Doors was asked to send someone to cover the event. They declined. I, too, an real tired of product reviews and rehashed material.
Posted by Mike on January 28, 1999 at 05:37:16:
In Reply to: Re: News Media posted by Steve on January 26, 1999 at 18:44:02:
Yeah, I know what you mean about the garbage...I lived on Fundy Street & could walk to the creek to fish and the garbage at that time (6yrs. ago) was atrocious then.......I would pick some up & take hoe with me but couldn't carry it all!!!!!!!! Is there still a good hole under the Thomas Street bridge??????? Have a good one...........Mike
Posted by rick perron on January 27, 1999 at 11:20:17:
In Reply to: Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail posted by Traverse city record eagle on January 12, 1999 at 19:03:45:
dear skeptic,
of course it is always impossible to believe that records will be broken. but this world record whitetail couldn't have fallen to a better hunter. mitch has been all to familiar to the elite huntering communtiy for too long. half the battle of rising to the top is being chopped away by others along the way. that's why there are so few leaders and many more followers. i don't have any records but have taken some incredible bucks from places that people refuse to believe. they have accused me of poaching, spotting, shooting with a rifle,etc,etc. i will never waste my time trying to convince the unconvinceables. my only competitor is myself, and maybe the same goes for mitch. i wish you the best of hunting in the future, but if you ever shoot a book deer or a state record, i will be your first critic to chop down your success.
if it was your hands around the base of those horns, i'm sure it would be a different story. how do you think the whitetail has become the most sought after and treasured game animal on the face of the earth?
good huntin'
guidermd
Posted by Steve on January 26, 1999 at 18:44:02:
In Reply to: Re: News Media posted by Mike on January 25, 1999 at 10:05:18:
Hi Mike Oshawa's doing okay. Oshawa Creek still holds a good run of rainbows in the spring and the fall run of salmon and browns is also pretty good. Last fall, the water was pretty low and we didnt' have any rain, so when the rain hit in mid-September, the salmon kind of came in on one wave. Got some good ones, though. A real problem is the litter. I've organized some local clean ups of the creek area, but it's a losing battle. I'm getting ahold of the City this year and we're going to try and do a massive effort. Good fishing
Posted by shelby on January 26, 1999 at 17:47:20:
In Reply to: It all looks fake! posted by Dallas K. on January 17, 1999 at 00:06:29:
do you want to know the real story
we'll i know it
just email me back to find out
Posted by Andy on January 26, 1999 at 16:11:59:
I just received the "proposal for regulation" issued
by MNR. As you likely know, OFAH is fighting it and has
asked various media to circulate the proposal and
submit comments to the contact persons
listed below. Please read the proposal and send
your comments to either the Minister or Premier. OFAH's position is at
http://www.ofah.org/bearbanpressrelease.htm
----------------------------------
EBR Registry Number: RB9E6001
Date Proposal Loaded: 1999/01/21 NOTICE OF PROPOSAL FOR REGULATION: HERE IS YOUR CHANCE - comment !
Proposal Title:
Short Description:
Some people have been concerned about young cubs orphaned each spring by hunters who
mistakenly shoot female bears shortly after emerging from winter hibernation with young
cubs in the spring. Ending the spring bear hunt is the only way to guarantee that females
with young cubs are not mistakenly shot during this hunt, thereby leaving orphans (which
experience a high mortality rate at this time of year). This proposal to end the spring bear
hunt will not reduce other hunting activities, including traditional fall hunts for deer,
moose and black bear.
To give legal effect to this proposal, an amendment would be made to O. Reg. 670/98
(Open Seasons - Wildlife) made under the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Act. The effect
of the amendment would be to remove the open hunting season for bear in April, May and
June, likely by removing the words "From April 15 to June 15 and" from Column 3 for
Items 3.1 to 3.5 (Black Bear) inclusive, and removing the words "From April 15 to June
30 and" from Column 3 for Item 3.6 (Black Bear). A link to a website appears below,
which contains the present wording of the regulation.
Ontario has one of the largest bear populations in North America, estimated at 75,000 to 100,000.
Purpose of the Proposal:
Other Relevant Information:
A January 15, 1999 news release and fact sheet on this proposal appears on MNR's
website, a link to which is provided below.
The government is exploring ways to diversify and strengthen northern tourism and, in
particular, to assist tourist operators affected by this proposal to end the spring bear hunt.
The Game and Fish Act was recently replaced by the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Act.
The new Act prohibits trade in most bear parts and also prohibits personal possession of
bear gallbladders separated from the carcass. The Act also prohibits: hunting bears while
they are swimming; disturbing or destroying bear dens; and, hunting bears within 400
metres of any garbage disposal site.
Other Public Consultation:
Regulatory Impact Statement:
The anticipated environmental consequences of the regulation are expected to be positive
insofar as the orphaning of young bear cubs as a result of hunting activity in the spring
will be eliminated. It is not expected that this proposal will have any significant, long-term
effect on the overall bear population.
In terms of the anticipated social consequences, ending the spring bear hunt will be viewed
favourably by those who have expressed concern about the orphaning of young bear cubs
in the spring. At present, a spring bear hunt is held in all other Canadian jurisdictions that
have bears, except Nova Scotia. Of the 41 U.S. states with bear populations, 27 have bear
hunting and six permit a spring hunt. Ending the hunt will not be viewed favourably by
those who participate in it, including hunters and bear operators.
The anticipated economic consequences of the proposal are also expected to be negative
for the tourist operators and guides that rely on the spring bear hunt for income. Most of
the expenditures on this hunt occur in central and northern Ontario. To partially offset this,
the government is exploring ways to diversify and strengthen resource-based tourism and,
in particular, to assist tourist operators who would be affected by an end to the spring bear hunt.
An amendment to O. Reg. 670/98 made under the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Act is
the only means by which this proposal can be given legal effect. Regulations provide the
force of law and are enforceable.
Comments should be directed to the following Contact Person: PREMIER Mike Harris
Queens Park
Toronto, Ontario
M7A 1A1
fax 416-325-7578
Ph 416-325-1941
Alternatively, you may access an electronic copy of the proposal and/or supporting documentation by clicking here:
http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/MNR/fwca/bear.html
All comments will be considered as part of the decision-making by the Ministry if they:
** No acknowledgement or individual response will be provided to those who comment.
All comment & submissions received will become part of the public record. **
INPUT MUST GO TO MINISTER SNOBELEN BEFORE AND NO LATER THAN FEB. 20, 1999
COPIES CAN ALSO GO TO PREMIER MIKE HARRIS
Posted by Rick on January 26, 1999 at 09:33:48:
A friend of Mitch Rompola's posted a message on a similar forum stating that the rack had been scored by 4 B&C measurers. The rack had a gross score of 223 and a net score of 218 5/8, which would be five inches bigger than the Hanson Buck. A The fishy thing is that B&C has received no score sheets, nobody has fessed up to scoring it, and Michigan's Commemerative Bucks has not heard anything. Rumor also has it the animal is up for sale???
Posted by Rick on January 26, 1999 at 09:28:59:
In Reply to: Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail posted by Jeremy Abston on January 18, 1999 at 12:18:40:
The rack had a gross score of 223 and a net score of 218 5/8, which would be five inches bigger than the Hanson Buck. According to a friend of Mitch's, the rack was scored by 4 B&C measurers. B&C has received no score sheets, nobody has fessed up to scoring it, and Michigan's Commemerative Bucks has not heard anything. Rumor also has it the animal is up for sale???
Posted by Jack on January 25, 1999 at 23:02:46:
In Reply to: Ontario Out of Doors: What Happened? posted by Steve Redgwell on January 24, 1999 at 22:44:34:
"Write on" pardon the pun!! It seems that everybody is in the mode of being POLITICALLY CORRECT! This is even true for a magizine that has a cooperative readership with Ontarios largest out of doors membership, The Ontario Federation of Hunter and Anglers.
Posted by craig.ferch on January 25, 1999 at 21:27:09:
In Reply to: Re: coyote hunting questions posted by Dale Gaudet on January 18, 1999 at 20:22:12:
coyote hunting areas or problem areas sd or mn.
Posted by craig ferch on January 25, 1999 at 21:24:45:
In Reply to: Re: coyote huting sd. posted by craig.ferch on January 25, 1999 at 20:44:18:
coyote problem araes mn,sd.
Posted by craig.ferch on January 25, 1999 at 20:44:18:
In Reply to: Re: coyote hunting questions posted by Dale Gaudet on January 18, 1999 at 20:22:12:
coyote hunting areas or problem areas sd or mn.
Posted by Jack on January 25, 1999 at 18:26:54:
In Reply to: News Media posted by Jack on January 24, 1999 at 07:02:12:
Thankyou for your input! I also get ticked off when the article is not in the publication on a consistant basis. Now that I have your information I will complain more informatively to to Toronto Star. I believe the coplaints should be numerous as we as sportsman are being again ectched out of the national news media. It appears they can find column space for the "conservations" [(thats what they seem to call themselves)(I would call them tree huggers)]. If we do not promote ourselves through the news media in a ethical way , we will lose the outdoors to those who sit in armchairs and fanticise seeing all the magnificent animals on their trip.
Posted by Mike on January 25, 1999 at 10:05:18:
In Reply to: Re: News Media posted by Steve Bond on January 24, 1999 at 20:21:23:
I stand correceted.........by the way, how's Oshawa doing??? I lived there for 40 yrs. before moving to Brampton and before the demsie of The Oshawa Times..........Mike
Posted by Kelly K Kuchta on January 24, 1999 at 23:55:15:
In Reply to: Re: coyote hunting tips posted by GEORGE Melton on January 19, 1999 at 19:58:31:
How about trapping coyote? Does anyone trap?
Posted by Steve Redgwell on January 24, 1999 at 22:44:34:
This will no doubt anger some readers. Hunting coverage was never the best in this mag. The last few years it seems to have gotten worse. Yes, they do publish the odd hunting/shooting story but they seem to be more concerned with product reviews and duck hunting tales. Is it that no one submits other subjects for consideration? I know that they support the shooting sports but it looks more like Ontario Fishing Outdoors. You may commence firing....
Safe Shooting! - Steve
Posted by R. Pontious on January 24, 1999 at 21:26:11:
In Reply to: Ontario spring bear hunt banned. posted by Steve Bond on January 16, 1999 at 16:10:39:
Unbelievable, to say the least! Snobelen has sold
out to the activists and by doing so has hurt his
own economy as well as his own peoples livelihood!
Its time to unite, before they take away something
else! It must not happen people!
Posted by Steve Bond on January 24, 1999 at 20:21:23:
In Reply to: Re: News Media posted by Mike on January 24, 1999 at 07:06:14:
Sorry Mike, but I have to disagree with you. I'm willing to be that Mr. Power submits the column every week, but with the Star, I'm sure Outdoors is one of it's lowest priorities in the sports section. I've contacted them a number of times regarding the bumping of Mr. Power's column for basketball and golf and they've always had an excuse. I write a weekly Outdoors column for Oshawa / Whitby This Week that is also carried in Port Perry, Clarington and Uxbridge. The Burlington Post runs it on a bi-weekly basis. One thing with the newspaper biz, every bit of editorial space is determined by the amount of advertising revenue that comes in. If a number of outdoor related businesses advertise, the column is guaranteed to run. It always boils down to dollars and cents. If the sales force cant' sell ads to support a certain limited interest column (and no matter how we like our hunting and fishing, we ARE a minority), the editorial content won't run. I really miss Mr. Powers column myself and I get so disgusted with all the coverage that basketball, horse racing and golf get. I had the pleasure to meet John at the hunting show a couple of years ago and he is truly one of the most respected outdoor writers Canada has ever produced.
Posted by Mike on January 24, 1999 at 07:06:14:
In Reply to: News Media posted by Jack on January 24, 1999 at 07:02:12:
Not to defend the Toronto Star, but John Power is getting up in age and still busy with other pursuits........i'm sure it's him not having the time to write the article rather than the Star not entereing it.......I admit, that I get pis*ed off when his column is not there on Sat. as I do look forward to it...........as for the Globe...ha....ha...you've got to be kidding.......the Sun has John Kerr and I think it's in on Thursdays but don't quote me on that..........hope this helps.............Mike
Posted by Jack on January 24, 1999 at 07:02:12:
What's up with our news media? The Toronto Star and its out door columnist, John Power do not run the regular Saturday and Wednesday columns. I am not sure whether it is Mr Power not sumbmitting columns in a duly , timely fashion or whether it is the Toronto Star not printing them. What ever the case I as a sports man of Ontario feel that the Toronto Star is not communicating a quality, factual outdoors column for the readers of Ontario on a consitant basis. Can anybody tell me if the Sun or the Globe & Mail offer a outdoors column, and what days they are published?
Posted by KENNY FLEMING on January 23, 1999 at 22:03:35:
In Reply to: Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail posted by Steve Bond on November 23, 1998 at 20:42:41:
Mr Rompola well all i have to say is............ : DUDE! YOU THE MAN!!!!!! HAHA but I'll Catch YOU Someday !!!!!!!! HAHA!
Posted by ben on January 23, 1999 at 11:53:37:
In Reply to: Re: Remains of Deer posted by Bob McNally on March 28, 1998 at 02:55:10:
hi would you please send me pictures of monster bucks and tell a story about them. thank you
Posted by Mike on January 23, 1999 at 08:13:43:
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Posted by Mike on January 23, 1999 at 08:13:26:
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Posted by Mike on January 23, 1999 at 08:09:46:
4x8 tilt/flatbed snowmobile trailer with removable sides, c/w spare tire, new rims & tires (4.80/4.00-8), wiring & lights........good condition......$500.00.......Brampton
Posted by Randy on January 22, 1999 at 19:51:48:
In Reply to: Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail posted by Wes Hogsett on January 02, 1999 at 19:49:01:
You can see picture and read article in Detroitfreepress
Posted by George Melton on January 21, 1999 at 21:34:31:
In Reply to: Things you see from your deer stand! posted by Hoyt on October 11, 1998 at 07:24:08:
Hi Hoyt I am 13 and this year one early morning I was sitting In my stand and I saw 4 coyotes and later on I saw a solid white fox squirrel and also a black one. I killed a 8 pointer later on.
George.
Posted by Shooter on January 21, 1999 at 15:28:24:
In Reply to: Re: Ontario spring bear hunt banned. posted by Andy on January 21, 1999 at 08:05:39:
Public Perception can only be changed with Time and Education. So many people are so dis-associated with the practice that it will take a long time and a lot of education. But we gotta start. OFAH has great programs like "Adopt A School" that has never been utilized enough. Getting the next generation onto the skeet, trap and sporting clays ranges is all essential! Dont overlook the girls either. Education is only one generation away. As for right now.... you have the power of pen and the power of vote. Right the letters to the MPP's (PC ones especially and opposition members) and tell them blatantly "I do not support what your party has done, and I will not vote for you in the next election if you go along with this"!!!! POINT BLANK!! No beating around the bush! Then come election time, remember your promise to them
Posted by Andy on January 21, 1999 at 08:11:24:
In Reply to: Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail posted by Jeremy Abston on January 18, 1999 at 12:18:40:
Click
here to see the photo.
Posted by Andy on January 21, 1999 at 08:05:39:
In Reply to: Re: Ontario spring bear hunt banned. posted by Steve on January 20, 1999 at 20:39:28:
Steve, I agree this is just the start, and, very
begrudgedly, accept it will be downhill from here.
But is it really hopeless? Can anything be done
to alter the public's perception of the hunting
and angling community? Comments, anyone?
Posted by Russ on January 20, 1999 at 23:04:22:
In Reply to: Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail posted by Steve Bond on November 23, 1998 at 20:42:41:
There is a picture of this deer at www.riflescopes.com
Posted by George Melton on January 20, 1999 at 21:31:51:
In Reply to: Re: coyote hunting tips posted by Steve Redgwell on January 17, 1999 at 15:58:39:
Hi Steve Thanks for the information on coyote hunting hope it helps me.Ill try to kill one this weekend. write back anytime.
Posted by Steve on January 20, 1999 at 20:39:28:
In Reply to: Re: Ontario spring bear hunt banned. posted by Andy on January 20, 1999 at 11:29:21:
I'm against the ban and have spoken on the matter quite extensively but one thing we should all learn from this: The anti hunters did their homework. They analyzed their objective and put a plan into effect that played on the weakness of their opponents, meaning the law abiding legal hunters of Ontario. I talked to an officer of OFAH recently and after the smear campaign which started this whole mess, the ratio of "opposing the hunt" to "support the hunt" was around 10 to 1 at the MPP's office. Is anyone taking notes here? For all my vehement supporting of the spring bear hunt I should go on record that I have never hunted bears and really have no interest in doing so. I just cannot stand by and see something taken away from us for no other reason than the fact that activists are good at spreading lies and swaying the public opinion. I remind everyone to mark this date on their calendars because this was the moment we started to lose our hunting and fishing rights. They will not stop here. I guarantee it.
Posted by Andy on January 20, 1999 at 11:29:21:
In Reply to: Ontario spring bear hunt banned. posted by Steve Bond on January 16, 1999 at 16:10:39:
I saw the Minister last night on TVO, and, judging
from the people that called in, it appears that
the objections from the public regrading the end of the
spring hunt are purely economic. I.e. guides and
outfitters will be out big bucks. And American
hunters will need to go elsewhere. I personally
don't like the idea of hunting *any* game over baits,
but that's something individuals should have the
freedom to choose for themselves. It appears
we have a sustainable bear population in Ontario,
so banning the spring hunt (and having an increased
harvest in the fall) is not biologically based.
I know this will be viewed and advertised as a
victory for the tree-huggers, but I have to
agree that it is something that should have been
done a long time ago. We are feeding plenty of ammo
to the likes of PETA by activities such as this.
I fear, as many of you do, that this is just the
first step, and bowhunting, using dogs for deer,
catch and release fishing (considered as "playing"
with a sentient creature for our amusement), etc.,
are next. But until we can change the public's
perception of anglers and hunters as a bunch of
drunken slobs, you better get used to it. Just
look around to see all the litter, snagging,
poaching and such on our waters and lands. As far
as Mr. John Q. Public is concerned, this is all
due to "sportsmen". I think you'll have a tough
time arguing this is not the case. I doubt there
will be much opposition from the public on the
spring hunt ban; they see it as a sensible step
to put an end to killing the "children" of these
bears (that's the Minister's wording, not mine").
Posted by Steve on January 19, 1999 at 23:23:29:
In Reply to: Re: coyote hunting tips posted by GEORGE Melton on January 19, 1999 at 19:58:31:
I've got a really old OLT call that I've had since I was about 16 and that's well over (ahem) 10 years now. Well over. It still works well but when they're in close, I've found that making a squeaking noise by pursing your lips with an intake of breath works very well also. Of course, you could use a squeaker call like the other poster.
I've even called in hawks and owls with my Olt call. One owl actually landed in the tree about 6 feet from me. Wish I'd had my camera.
Posted by Steve Redgwell on January 19, 1999 at 22:01:43:
In Reply to: Re: coyote hunting tips posted by GEORGE Melton on January 19, 1999 at 19:58:31:
Hi George. I use a few different calls. I have a mouse squeeker, rabbit and a turkey diaphram. I use the mouse squeeker the most. It seems to get their attention without waking up the entire neighbourhood. Their hearing is so acute. The mouse squeek works with foxes as well. Their ears go up and their nose goes into the wind. I've also got a howler. Haven't used it much down here. When I was up moose hunting, I had wolves howling back. Safe Shooting! - Steve
Posted by Kern on January 19, 1999 at 21:39:50:
In Reply to: Re: Ontario spring bear hunt banned. posted by Steve on January 19, 1999 at 08:16:09:
Husky designs and builds the machines that are used to make plastic containers. The most common is the 2 litre pop bottle. Walk into any Coke or Pepsi plant and youll find their machines.
Posted by ken payne on January 19, 1999 at 21:24:17:
In Reply to: Possable New World Record Whitetail posted by Hoyt on November 22, 1998 at 15:20:03:
Posted by George Melton on January 19, 1999 at 20:06:00:
In Reply to: Re: Mike posted by Steve Redgwell on January 03, 1999 at 14:40:17:
Hi Steve thanks for giving me some tips on coyote hunting. I was wondering what kind of call you use. George Melton.
Posted by GEORGE Melton on January 19, 1999 at 19:58:31:
In Reply to: Re: coyote hunting tips posted by Steve Redgwell on January 17, 1999 at 15:58:39:
Hi Steve thanks for giving me some tips on hunting these animals.I was wondering what kind of calls you use.I use a olt call it is a realy good call I called a coyote in with it last week but couldn,t get a shot. I was wondering what kind of call you use. George Melton.
Posted by chuck haney on January 19, 1999 at 12:34:06:
In Reply to: Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail posted by Jeremy Abston on January 18, 1999 at 12:18:40:
Posted by chuck on January 19, 1999 at 12:33:32:
In Reply to: Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail posted by Jeremy Abston on January 18, 1999 at 12:18:40:
Posted by Steve on January 19, 1999 at 08:16:09:
In Reply to: Re: Ontario spring bear hunt banned. posted by Shooter on January 19, 1999 at 03:06:24:
Can we find out who Husky makes products for and write these companies with a boycott lettter? I've asked OFAH what they're organizing and havent' got a reply yet. I've sent faxes to Harris, Snobelen and my local MPP's.
Posted by Shooter on January 19, 1999 at 03:06:24:
In Reply to: Re: Ontario spring bear hunt banned. posted by Fischer on January 18, 1999 at 09:23:26:
Robert Schad of Husky Injection and Mold in Bolton Ont, pumped a skabillion dollars into and created the Ontario Schad Foundation. They teamed up with IFAW ont he spring bear issue. The Schad group has drove this one quickly. Whats next? Would you believe the elimination of hunting in Provincial Parks? ie: waterfowling at Long Point and Rondeau.
Posted by Dale Gaudet on January 18, 1999 at 20:22:12:
In Reply to: Re: coyote hunting tips posted by Steve on January 17, 1999 at 11:46:56:
Looking for information on coyote's and coyote
hounds. I'm from P.E.I. and i had a good season
so far. But the weather now is stating to get
bad. Please reply.
THAND YOU
Posted by Don Blanton on January 18, 1999 at 17:25:08:
In Reply to: FIREARMS FOR SALE posted by MIKE on August 02, 1998 at 09:25:55:
I am interested in the 44mag. you have for sale.
What model & how much?
by the way FAC's are not required in wisconsin.
Posted by Jeremy Abston on January 18, 1999 at 12:18:40:
In Reply to: Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail posted by louis on January 16, 1999 at 12:30:38:
Where can this giant be viewed at?
Posted by Fischer on January 18, 1999 at 09:23:26:
In Reply to: Ontario spring bear hunt banned. posted by Steve Bond on January 16, 1999 at 16:10:39:
I personally think that the gov't took a lot of undeserved flak over lowering the hunting age to 12. This was a way to take some heat off and score some political points. I like the PC's (despite some mistakes they have made, at least they are trying and not sitting on their hands like other parties have), but let's face it, their heading into an election this year and don't need the PETA crap. Some people have asked what is next. I will guarantee that it is deer hunting with dogs. The Ontario Humane Society has been gumming on that for years. Now IFAW (International Fund for Animal Welfare) will turn their sights on it. BTW, it was IFAW who was behind the spring bear hunt ads, though I'm sure all those PETA freaks were sitting in the wings with a chubby.
Posted by Steve Redgwell on January 17, 1999 at 15:58:39:
In Reply to: coyote hunting tips posted by George Melton on January 16, 1999 at 16:23:07:
Hi George. Coyotes are primarily nocturnal feeders. The best times to hunt for them are in the morning (up until about 9ish) or in the afternoon starting about two hours before sunset. They like to move around at the same time as their supper is moving. Although they can be hunted any time during the day, they are much more active in the morning and towards the evening. This time of year, calling can work because the available food supply is less. Bye for now! Safe Shooting! - Steve Redgwell
Posted by Steve on January 17, 1999 at 11:46:56:
In Reply to: coyote hunting tips posted by George Melton on January 16, 1999 at 16:23:07:
I've had really good luck with the store bought predator calls. Practice until you feel comfortable and use it. They work very well. I've personally called in probably a dozen coyotes over the last few years while bowhunting for deer. I've got them within about 30 yards, but by the time the arrow gets there - they're long gone!! Very challenging.
Posted by Shooter on January 17, 1999 at 03:42:17:
In Reply to: Late season Goose hunt, anyone looking for company??? posted by Braden on January 14, 1999 at 15:36:16:
same here Am not much of a late season goose hunter... am not set up for it. But would certainly trade a decent goose shoot for a great day or two at Rondeau Marsh next fall at my expense. I have hunted there for 12 years and am well set up for it. www.angelfire.com/la/outdoorspot
Posted by Shooter on January 17, 1999 at 03:33:02:
In Reply to: coyote hunting tips posted by George Melton on January 16, 1999 at 16:23:07:
never did it myself before but my peers say "driving" them like deer is the best. Drive them to watchers who do the shootin'. www.angelfire.com/la/outdoorspot
Posted by Shooter on January 17, 1999 at 03:29:14:
In Reply to: Ontario spring bear hunt banned. posted by Steve Bond on January 16, 1999 at 16:10:39:
catch the release off my website at:
www.angelfire.com/la/outdoorspot It was PETA but moreso the SCHAD group. They threatened a multi million dollar slime media tactic against NOTO (Northern Ontario Tourist Outfitters) and PC MPP's. I understand that the tactic split NOTO members at the convention as some wanted to look at eco-tourism as suggested by SCHAD. Once NOTO split, Snobelen buckled as well. My only problem is that NOTO does not dictate or run the spring bear hunt. What about the rest of the "Joe" hunters in Ontario??????? Dont WE matter anymore? Does anyone believe that the money saved by SCHAD and PETA by not having to do their slur campaign will be put to an "Ice Storm Relief Fund" or "Clothes For the Winter Homeless"? HA HA ya right... just wait and see whats next.......
Posted by Shooter on January 17, 1999 at 03:20:38:
In Reply to: 20 Gauge for ducks, am I nuts?? posted by Braden on January 12, 1999 at 22:00:56:
yer not nutz at all! just remember that your 20 is limited in range. Use it over dekes and work 'em in close. My dad started me waterfowling at age 12 in corn fields with a single .410!!!! Almost nutz......... but it learned me to wait, pick my shots, make the first shot count and to keep still. www.angelfire.com/la/outdoorspot
Posted by Brandon on January 17, 1999 at 00:31:19:
In Reply to: Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail posted by frank reid on January 08, 1999 at 17:34:00:
I can see that this deer is unbelieveable in many ways. There seems to be a problem with the whole view on this deer. The hunter, the picture and the story just are to good to be true. I don't know why a hunter would leave his kill in the bush before even looking if it was there. Who would shoot a world record class buck and go get their video camera before taking a better look. Every hunter I have ever known has always wanted to see what the deer looks like right away. Even if the buck is below 100. The story is also original. What hunter would do all the work alone when you have the biggest buck of your life, and know it. I guess we will all see what really happens when the deer is scored. Till then happy HUNTIN AND FISHIN to you all.
Posted by Dallas K. on January 17, 1999 at 00:06:29:
In Reply to: Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail posted by Traverse city record eagle on January 12, 1999 at 19:03:45:
There's too much suspicion around this story for it to be true. I've heard many stories, but none have had as many holes and possibilities in them as this one. It all just dosn't make sense with the droopy ears and the many years of hunting with buddies and not getting anything of even considerable size, nevermind a world record class whitetail. Then he leaves because his buddies don't want him anymore, starts tracking, and hunting by himself and all of a sudden starts getting monster whitetails in succesive years with a bow. Either he's the greatest hunter in the world, or the greatest fraud in the world. The latter being the one I favor, but then again, maybe it's just me!
Posted by Berry on January 16, 1999 at 23:35:19:
In Reply to: Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail posted by C.B.Young on January 11, 1999 at 18:54:39:
We can't seem to view the picture. How can we pull up the picture to take a look?
Posted by George Melton on January 16, 1999 at 16:23:07:
I am 13 years old and I was wondering what time of the day is best for coyote hunting.
Posted by George Melton on January 16, 1999 at 16:18:56:
In Reply to: During the day? posted by Andy on November 09, 1998 at 16:32:07:
I am 13 years old and I was wondering what time of the day is best for coyote hunting.
Posted by George Melton on January 16, 1999 at 16:15:31:
In Reply to: During the day? posted by Andy on November 09, 1998 at 16:32:07:
I am 13 years old and I was wondering what time of the day is best for coyote hunting.
Posted by Steve Bond on January 16, 1999 at 16:10:39:
Just got wind of this. The MNR issued a press release January 15th banning the spring bear hunt. Check out the MNR home page at
http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/MNR/ for more info. The anti hunting minority and animal rights activists finally got to Snobelen. I can't believe this has happened. As Outdoors columnis for Oshawa Whitby This Week as well as the Burlington Post, I've written a few columns over the years denouncing the animal alliance, PETA and all the scaremonger tactics they've been using.
Hey guys, we better get off the stick on this one. This is the wedge they've driven into hunting and they've now got a foot in the door. What's next to go? Deer hunting? Waterfowling? Sport fishing? Don't believe for one minute that all these activities aren't on their agenda. The economic impact on tourism will be astronomical alone, not to mention the outfitters that will go out of business as a result of this. We have to present a united front against this unilateral and surprising legislation. Let's use this forum to get an organized campaign going. Letter writing is an obvious tactic, but are there any other ideas? We should see what OFAH has planned as well. I am really ticked off about this one!!
Posted by louis on January 16, 1999 at 12:30:38:
In Reply to: Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail posted by C.B.Young on January 11, 1999 at 18:54:39:
where can we view the picture?
Posted by Big Bird on January 16, 1999 at 07:32:50:
In Reply to: Game count posted by Jack on January 06, 1999 at 19:05:11:
Hunters in Ontario seem to think that if they tell what amount of game is present in various areas that others will "home"in on their range. Otherwise there should be significant postings to this site. Generally I found good populations of grouse in the Dorset area. Ducks were abundant throughout the season. The weather did allow me more days hunting this season than in the previous years. As far as big game went our group did get two deer and saw numberous Moose.
We however do not hunt the moose in this area as the property is lease to another group.
Posted by mitch rompola on January 15, 1999 at 20:20:43:
In Reply to: Possable New World Record Whitetail posted by Hoyt on November 22, 1998 at 15:20:03:
Posted by bg on January 15, 1999 at 08:27:04:
In Reply to: Late Goose season dates posted by Kern on January 14, 1999 at 16:12:35:
February 17th to the 27th in WMU's 60A, 64-71 incl., 72B to 75 incl., 79, 80, 82 to 89, and 91 to 93 incl. Also increased bag limit (3 additional geese).
Posted by Kern on January 14, 1999 at 16:12:35:
I know a late shoot starts on the 15th of Jan, but I understand there will be another hunt in Feb. Does anyone know the dates??? I havent seen alot around here with all the snow that we been havin so im thinkin Feb might be better.
Posted by Braden on January 14, 1999 at 15:37:51:
In Reply to: 20 Gauge for ducks, am I nuts?? posted by Braden on January 12, 1999 at 22:03:46:
x
Posted by Braden on January 14, 1999 at 15:36:16:
Don't know much about goose hunting, just the occasional shot
when I've been out for duck. Would be interested in learning from a veteran.
I am willing to share all expenses if anyone wants some company. Please post
here or e-mail me. Thanks,
Braden.
Posted by Joe on January 14, 1999 at 08:21:07:
In Reply to: Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail posted by Larry Chandler on January 09, 1999 at 00:10:15:
The 38 in. spread is mentioned in the article as the outside spread, and probably comes from the outward pointing G-4's. Using the picture and a scale (not really accurate, but good enough for a guess), I guess the inside spread to be about 30 in. As far as a gross score, using the same technique and assuming all circumferences are 5 in, I come up with just over 220 (assuming 30 in main beams as well). The 60 days was up the other day, has anyone heard an official score yet??? I've been searching the net for the past 2 days with no luck.
Posted by Joe on January 14, 1999 at 08:18:20:
In Reply to: Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail posted by Larry Chandler on January 09, 1999 at 00:10:15:
The 38 in. spread is mentioned in the article as the outside spread, and probably comes from the outward pointing G-4's. Using the picture and a scale (not really accurate, but good enough for a guess), I guess the inside spread to be about 30 in. As far as a gross score, using the same technique and assuming all circumferences are 5 in, I come up with just over 220 (assuming 30 in main beams as well). The 60 days was up the other day, has anyone heard an official score yet??? I've been searching the net for the past 2 days with no luck.
Posted by Andrew on January 13, 1999 at 23:10:29:
In Reply to: GPS comparision posted by Andy Leal on September 16, 1998 at 23:50:40:
Hello sir,
I have quite a bit of experience with gps recievers and to say it up front: "Go with the EXPLORER". I own a Eagle Expidition II which is exactly the same but with more features and it never ever lets me down. I'm sure that if you went out and bought a Magellan, that you would probably be a bit disappointed. But it all really depends on how you use it. If you are in low reception areas like around trees and buildings, the EAGLE definatly has the nod. But if you are in the open all the time and have a little patience and flexability, you may want to go with the Magellan. Especially if you like the look of the Mag better. Andrew
New Brunswick, Canada
Posted by Kern on January 13, 1999 at 21:48:32:
In Reply to: 20 Gauge for ducks, am I nuts?? posted by Braden on January 12, 1999 at 22:03:46:
You can knock them down with a 20 but you have to be on top of them for a clean kill. With the large shot you have to shoot in steel, you wont fit alot in a 2-3/4 inch 20 ga case so your patterns will get pretty thin real quick.
Posted by Ruko on January 13, 1999 at 20:39:21:
In Reply to: 20 Gauge for ducks, am I nuts?? posted by Braden on January 12, 1999 at 22:00:56:
go for it use your 20 gauge but call them in CLOSE
i have a side by side 20 with a mod. and an imp. cylinder on it i use it but you gotta be CLOSE winchester makes a xx 2 3/4 magnum load that is really good [steel of course].
alos know your gun shoot many rounds, many rounds
will get in the kill zone .
but i can't say it enough get the ducks close to you 20 meters max [60feet] be the hunter use your camo ,calls .
Posted by Bill on January 13, 1999 at 12:04:43:
In Reply to: 20 Gauge for ducks, am I nuts?? posted by Braden on January 12, 1999 at 22:03:46:
You may wish to check with a gunsmith to determine if is feasible to have the 2 3/4" chamber bored out to accept a 3" shell.
Posted by Mike on January 13, 1999 at 06:05:05:
In Reply to: Re: Brampton posted by Doug on January 10, 1999 at 14:44:42:
Hey Doug.........yeah I know where Kinmount is......we have seen moose in our area many times.........56 & 60A.........I even had one come out to my watch 2 years ago....lucky i'm an ethical hunter........where in Brampton are you....i'm at North Park & Bramalea....what kind of boat do you have & where do you normally fish.............Mike
Posted by Dave on January 13, 1999 at 02:02:53:
In Reply to: 20 Gauge for ducks, am I nuts?? posted by Braden on January 12, 1999 at 22:03:46:
If u are planning on using this gun only for waterfowl, save your money and buy a 12g. or better yet, buy a 12g. that can take a 3.5 shell. If take the time to pattern the gun with the different choke settings and try all the different loads u can get your hands on !! From this, u will be able to see what works best and at what distance !! Shot a few rounds of skeet or trap with steel hunting loads (if the club will allow it !!) and see how u do !! I do not know to many people who shoots a 20g. for ducks, with steel losing its engery so fast, work the birds in real close, i still perfer a 12g. A 20g. in the hands of experince shooter (not just a waterfowler) should have no problem making a clean kill as long as he knows his limits with the gun !!
U can also use other Non-Tox loads that are very simular to lead, but very expensive !! Hope This Helps......dave
Posted by Braden on January 12, 1999 at 22:03:46:
I am an inexperienced duck hunter, and am looking at purchasing a used
20 gauge autoloader made by winchester for the Sears company.
The gun is in excellent shape, and I really liked the heft of it.
It comes with an adjustable poly choke. The price is about $250.
Here's the kicker, we now have to shoot steel, and this gun is only
chambered for 2 3/4" shells! I no it wouldn't be a big deal if the gun
shot 3". What do you guys think, will the gun have enough knock
down power, or will I just be wounding birds with the steel???
Apreciate your responses.
Posted by Braden on January 12, 1999 at 22:00:56:
I am an inexperienced duck hunter, and am looking at purchasing a used
20 gauge autoloader made by winchester for the Sears company.
The gun is in excellent shape, and I really liked the heft of it.
It comes with an adjustable poly choke. The price is about $250.
Here's the kicker, we now have to shoot steel, and this gun is only
chambered for 2 3/4" shells! I no it wouldn't be a big deal if the gun
shot 3". What do you guys think, will the gun have enough knock
down power, or will I just be wounding birds with the steel???
Apreciate your responses.
Posted by travis city record eagle on January 12, 1999 at 19:09:16:
In Reply to: Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail posted by Traverse city record eagle on January 12, 1999 at 19:03:45:
Posted by Traverse city record eagle on January 12, 1999 at 19:03:45:
In Reply to: Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail posted by Larry Chandler on January 09, 1999 at 00:10:15:
would like to see picture
Posted by Larry chandler on January 12, 1999 at 18:49:54:
In Reply to: Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail posted by frank reid on January 08, 1999 at 17:34:00:
Posted by WAYNE on January 12, 1999 at 17:57:57:
JUST WONDERING IF ANYBODY OUT THERE HUNTS DUCKS IN OR NEAR LAKE ONTARIO AROUND THE HAMILTON/TORONTO AREA? I KNOW TE SEASONS OVER BUT I AM ALREADY THINKING ABOUT NEXT SEASON!!
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT TYPES OF DUCKS AS WELL AS THE BEST TIMES TO HUNT THAT AREA. THANKS ALL!!!
Posted by Skyman on January 12, 1999 at 14:33:09:
In Reply to: Re: Brampton posted by Doug on January 10, 1999 at 14:44:42:
Yeah I saw a herd of four moose 2 miles north of Kimount this summer. You don't usually see moose until a little farther north.
Posted by Simon on January 12, 1999 at 14:30:08:
In Reply to: Re: Canadian Hunting Newsgroup. posted by Jack on January 07, 1999 at 23:00:00:
I put a link to the can.rec.hunting site at http://www.zoo.utoronto.ca/FUN/Fish.html
Posted by C.B.Young on January 11, 1999 at 18:54:39:
In Reply to: Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail posted by Larry Chandler on January 09, 1999 at 00:10:15:
I saw a photo copy. If it is for real, it is awsome.
Posted by Steve on January 10, 1999 at 21:54:51:
In Reply to: Re: where are we from posted by Ruko on January 04, 1999 at 20:54:32:
Hey Ruko
Was up your way a couple of years ago for the bow season for moose. Had a great time. We set up camp near Gogama and although we didnt' get a moose (we had two cow tags so you can guess what I had within 20 feet of me), we got in some great September fishing for pike, bass and walleye in Lake St. Louis. Even drilled a few grouse with my bow. I live in Oshawa and mostly bowhunt for deer north of Port Perry and hunt with a shotgun for turkeys near Sunderland. Sorry, but I don't care for ducks or geese.
Posted by Doug on January 10, 1999 at 15:08:18:
In Reply to: Re: grouse area posted by Jack on January 03, 1999 at 09:11:39:
Hi, This message is even later. I am new here. I agree Jack about people giving away area info. I hunted dear not too far from Norland this year and only saw a couple of grouse. It could be in a down-cycle regime at the moment. Did you Stephen get out there and try it at all?? Doug
Posted by Doug on January 10, 1999 at 14:49:39:
In Reply to: Re: where are we from posted by Ruko on January 04, 1999 at 20:54:32:
Hi Ruko, You are not kidding about cold up there. I was only in Timmins once, MNR flew me up there in a Twin Otter for a winter time meeting re the Missinaibi R. area.
Posted by Doug on January 10, 1999 at 14:44:42:
In Reply to: Re: where are we from posted by Mike on January 03, 1999 at 09:03:35:
Hi Mike, I am also from Brampton and often hunt at a friend's place near Kinmount, not all that far from where you hunt. We even saw a moose track this year there, first time in decades, while deer hunting. Like you I am also an avid fisherman - bass, walleye, crappie, pike, musky, trout, you name it.
I sold my cottage last year, but kept my boat, so I will be looking for new fishing grounds this year. Doug
Posted by Doug on January 10, 1999 at 14:36:46:
In Reply to: where are we from posted by Jack, from Niagara on January 03, 1999 at 08:50:31:
Hi guys, I am from the Brampton area. I both hunt and target shoot. I would definitely like to get more hunting in this coming year - grouse, rabbit, ducks, dear and varmits. Doug
Posted by Larry J on January 10, 1999 at 03:00:35:
In Reply to: Re: Beagles posted by Larry on April 03, 1998 at 11:15:15:
Send me some E-mail if you would like to talk about beagles
Posted by Kern on January 09, 1999 at 15:08:33:
In Reply to: where are we from posted by Jack, from Niagara on January 03, 1999 at 08:50:31:
Im in Courtice and mostly hunt ducks and geese. Sometimes Ill go out for rabbits and grouse. Usually hunt around Scugog, early goose season you will find me around Simcoe and Georgian Bay area.
Posted by Larry Chandler on January 09, 1999 at 00:10:15:
In Reply to: Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail posted by frank reid on January 08, 1999 at 17:34:00:
I assume you all have seen the picture from the Traverse City Record-Eagle by now. I could not get to the site of the photo myself but have a xerox of it. I would agree that the outside spread is much more than inside- G-4s point outward- also that he may lose spread points as it looks larger than either main beam. Buck is pretty symmetrical. The only odd thing is that the antlers grow out of the side of his head- although I have seen this type of rack before. Even without the spread he's one hell of a buck. I would guess him at 260 gross?
Posted by Shooter on January 08, 1999 at 19:28:32:
In Reply to: where are we from posted by Jack, from Niagara on January 03, 1999 at 08:50:31:
Live near Chatham (SW Ontario) hunt moose in Armstrong area (16C) and deer in 47 loring area. Avid waterfowler on Lake St Clair, St Clair river, Rondeau Marsh. Lotsa puddlers and Geese. Rabbits in Lambton Co, pheasants and chukars on game farms. Freelance Outddor Writer. Visit my site......
www.angelfire.com/la/outdoorspot
Posted by frank reid on January 08, 1999 at 17:34:00:
In Reply to: Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail posted by Wes Hogsett on January 02, 1999 at 19:49:01:
would love to see picture
Posted by Simon on January 08, 1999 at 14:56:02:
In Reply to: Re: Canadian Hunting Newsgroup. posted by Simon on January 08, 1999 at 14:52:12:
Sorry Jack but the fishboard is not accepting my post today for some reason. I'll get it up there for you as soon as possible.
Posted by Simon on January 08, 1999 at 14:52:12:
In Reply to: Re: Canadian Hunting Newsgroup. posted by Jack on January 07, 1999 at 23:00:00:
It's not a web site but a news group. Type news:can.rec.hunting into your browser and it should work. If your using netscape click ont the two caption balloons on the bottom left corner of your screen. This will take you to your newsserver. You can then subscribe to the group. The group name is can.rec.hunting. news:can.rec.hunting should show up in blue on this page and be a direct link to it. It works on the fishing board but not here for some reason. Check out http://www.zoo.utoronto.ca/FUN/Fish.html I'll leave the link there.
Posted by Jack on January 07, 1999 at 23:00:00:
In Reply to: Canadian Hunting Newsgroup. posted by Simon on January 07, 1999 at 22:47:59:
I was not able to sign on to this site: http://www.news:can.rec.hunting
Posted by Skyman on January 07, 1999 at 22:59:14:
In Reply to: where are we from posted by Jack, from Niagara on January 03, 1999 at 08:50:31:
I live and hunt in and around the Carnarvon - Dorset area. Rabbits, grouse, and woodcock are my favorite but I hunt moose and deer and I usually grab a bear tag just in case. I don't hunt deer seriously anymore. But it's a good excuse to get some execise. Ducks from the canoe is amazing too.
Posted by Simon on January 07, 1999 at 22:47:59:
Hello all. My name is Simon Connell and a few months ago I got an all Canadian newsgroup for hunting and trapping formed called news:can.rec.hunting. At the time I did not know of this board and did not annouce it here. I would like to invite you all to drop by and check it out. At first there was quite a hassel getting peoples ISP newservers to pick it up but all that should be solved now. I hope you may find this newsgroup a valuable resource.
Posted by Simon on January 07, 1999 at 22:47:17:
Hello all. My name is Simon Connell and a few months ago I got an all Canadian newsgroup for hunting and trapping formed called news:can.rec.hunting. At the time I did not know of this board and did not annouce it here. I would like to invite you all to drop by and check it out. At first there was quite a hassel getting peoples ISP newservers to pick it up but all that should be solved now. I hope you may find this newsgroup a valuable resource.
Posted by Skyman on January 07, 1999 at 22:40:58:
In Reply to: Game count posted by Jack on January 06, 1999 at 19:05:11:
North western Haliburton Highlands:
grouse: Saw them by the hundreads all summer, come hunting season there weere few around but more then previous years.
deer: Seems to bo doing OK. They are small but there is lots around.
woodcock: First year in a long time when there has been a few around. Not great numbers but at least we were seeing them. Highest numberws I've seen in four years.
rabbit: With the late snow the rabbits were white on a brown background. Easy hunting and lot's of them around.
Ducks: Best numbers were late season as the lakes were freezing up. Early season was decent too.
Moose: Saw a few tracks.
Bear: same as moose.
Posted by Jack on January 06, 1999 at 19:05:11:
How about a survey of areas we have hunted and a general idea of what amount of game is in various areas. Niagara area: Grouse: early sightings, but have not see many since Nov end
Ducks: Good early hunting if you could find water, but only the lakes got the migration flight
Woodcock: Saw only two birds, needless to say zero harvested
Deer: Have not seen any,mind you I have not been looking for them
Geese: Who does not have them?
Rabbits: I have not seen a lot of them, but I have not hunted areas where I would find high populations.
Note: On my hunts to Parry Sound area and South River area I have seen a good population of grouse, deer and moose.
Posted by Paul Seegars on January 05, 1999 at 18:24:59:
In Reply to: FIREARMS FOR SALE posted by MIKE on August 02, 1998 at 09:25:55:
Intrested in sw44 and your 1911
Posted by Ruko on January 04, 1999 at 20:54:32:
In Reply to: Re: where are we from posted by Mike on January 03, 1999 at 09:03:35:
i'm from timmins home of shania ah!ah!. hunting for me is a ten minute drive to any direction.
i'm like hunting grouse , moose ,deer, rabbit,ducksand geese.{yes it's cold here.
Posted by Mike on January 04, 1999 at 06:30:45:
In Reply to: Re: Mike posted by Steve Redgwell on January 03, 1999 at 14:40:17:
Maybe the deer was wearing a kevlar vest!!!!!!!!!!! ha ha ha
Posted by Mike on January 04, 1999 at 06:29:34:
In Reply to: Mike posted by Jack -from Niagara on January 03, 1999 at 10:30:10:
A good buddy of mine owns an old farmhouse on Bear Lake Road, just east of Gooderham. The house has been all redone and insulated and 4 -5 of us stay there for the hunt. Can't complain......it's not the Ritz, but it's warm & comfortable!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Rob on January 03, 1999 at 18:01:16:
In Reply to: where are we from posted by Jack, from Niagara on January 03, 1999 at 08:50:31:
I live in the Collingwood area on the Mountain.I just built a new house not a lot of time to hunt this fall.I managed to get my week for deer.We also hunt in the Bancroft area.I have a camp there alsoI couldn't make it up there this year.We had good luck at the getting ducks this fall.My son turned 12 in September he took the hunting course now he carries the gun. Good luck
Posted by Steve Redgwell on January 03, 1999 at 14:40:17:
In Reply to: Mike posted by Jack -from Niagara on January 03, 1999 at 10:30:10:
I friend of mine has a farm in Waterloo county. We used to bow hunt for deer there years ago. His first deer was the deer that wasn't! He was about 15 feet from his first buck, took the shot and the bolt bounced off. To this day we don't know what happened. The "impact" was witnessed but the best thing we could figure was that it hit bone at an angle and glanced off. Strange but true.
Posted by Steve Redgwell on January 03, 1999 at 14:33:15:
In Reply to: 303 Epps & Wildcats posted by Steve Redgwell on January 03, 1999 at 01:54:34:
There's a company in Australia, Simplex Dies, that has four or five dies made up for 303 based wildcats. This variant is more popular in Oz than over here. 22, 243(6mm), 25, 303 Epps and 270 -303 are listed. If you want to see what our cousins over there have, go here, http://users.bigpond.com/ammodump/main.html
It's a business called AmmoDump. I went there because I wanted to find some different 303 bullets. I found a company called woodleigh, that makes premium bullets. I don't know if any of you reload for this rifle but it's a hoot!
Posted by Steve Redgwell on January 03, 1999 at 14:26:57:
In Reply to: Re: 303 Epps & Wildcats posted by Jack on January 03, 1999 at 08:57:21:
The new owners are nice folks. It's a family run business like before. Ellwood is still around. He's 90 or 91 but doesn't get involved with the store anymore. If you ever need to contact them, they have an email address, epps@encode.com
I'm about 40 minutes away and that's where I do my business.
Posted by Steve Redgwell on January 03, 1999 at 14:22:52:
In Reply to: where are we from posted by Jack, from Niagara on January 03, 1999 at 08:50:31:
I live in Borden, Ontario. It's about 15 miles outside of Barrie. I like military Surplus rifles and varmints. Haven't hunted deer since I was posted to NB but I like going after Bullwinkle. No luck this year. I had to be satisfied with some foxes and grouse. I like hunting in area 21A and around Sudbury. (The wife's from closeby).
Posted by Jack -from Niagara on January 03, 1999 at 10:30:10:
Just caught your message on hunting in the Gooderham area. I use to hunt the Wilberforce area. Great location ,poor accomodations! I have since hunted deer in the Parry Sound area, on a remote lake during the second week. Otherwise I hunt the Niagara penisula to Turkey Point, with the odd side trip to Luther marsh. I also have property in South River that I spend early season hunting ducks, grouse,ect. TOO many hunters there for the moose season.
Posted by Jack on January 03, 1999 at 09:11:39:
In Reply to: grouse area posted by Stephen on October 20, 1998 at 15:04:04:
I know its a little late but its seems that nobody wants to share hunting site information . As the old story goes tell me your favourite hunting location, iwell try it two or three times and let you know if it is as good as you think it is!!!
Posted by Mike on January 03, 1999 at 09:04:47:
In Reply to: Re: 303 Epps & Wildcats posted by Jack on January 03, 1999 at 08:57:21:
I've been to Epps, but it had to be 15 - 20 years ago!!! Must stop in again sometime.
Posted by Mike on January 03, 1999 at 09:03:35:
In Reply to: where are we from posted by Jack, from Niagara on January 03, 1999 at 08:50:31:
I'm from Brampton, Ontario and love to hunt deer in the Gooderham area of Ontario. I'm also an avid fisherman.......afterall, what hunter isn't???
Posted by Jack: GOOD IDEA no text on January 03, 1999 at 09:02:40:
In Reply to: Crimestoppers patch posted by Fischer on December 22, 1998 at 10:05:25:
Good Idea
Posted by Jack on January 03, 1999 at 08:57:21:
In Reply to: 303 Epps & Wildcats posted by Steve Redgwell on January 03, 1999 at 01:54:34:
I have visited Epps store in Orilla, but my wife was with me and could not guns that day. As I only get the opportunity to pass by when going to my camp in South River I have not been able to stop andtalk with the new owners. I do see from previous postings on this board that they are knowledgable dealers.
Posted by Jack, from Niagara on January 03, 1999 at 08:50:31:
Happy New Year!! Just a thought, but it would be informative to know where everbody is from. Rather than make comments like I have here just post your name and area. Maybe this way we can see the pattern on postings , game results and what is available to hunt in Ontario.
Posted by Jack on January 03, 1999 at 08:40:38:
In Reply to: Re: Hey JACK, where's your input on the 30-06????? posted by Kern on January 02, 1999 at 16:42:49:
The input regarding the 30.06 is in my 2nd posting, third pargraph. It is only coincidence that I have a 30.06 rifle and can make comment on it. My major comments are still to the effect that if you cannot contribute something positive, or constructive then keep your editorial comments to yourself. I suppose that our diologue has created some reading for our cold Ontario nights, EH!
Posted by Steve Redgwell on January 03, 1999 at 01:54:34:
Is anyone using the 303 Epps ctg? Is anyone using a wildcat based on the 303 case? For how long? How/why did you get it? Have you visited Epps Sporting Goods in Orillia? Do I have anymore questions? Probably, but I'd like to hear some answers first! :)
Posted by Wes Hogsett on January 02, 1999 at 19:49:01:
In Reply to: Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail posted by Steve Bond on November 23, 1998 at 20:42:41:
WOULd like to read article on this massive head would also like to view picture if one is available
Thank You
Wes Hogsett
Posted by Kern on January 02, 1999 at 16:42:49:
In Reply to: Re: Hey JACK, where's your input on the 30-06????? posted by Jack on January 02, 1999 at 10:39:52:
Well said Jack. I too went to shooters.com Yes there was alot of info there but as you said its all american ( pricing and distributors ). When I post post on our site Im talking to local people, some of whom Ive met and have come to know quite well. Yes its a slow site, so what!! I like it. Your welcome to post here John, but dont come on telling people that they are wasteing their time here.
BTW....I didnt see your input on the 30-06??????????
Posted by Jack on January 02, 1999 at 10:39:52:
In Reply to: Hey JACK, where's your input on the 30-06????? posted by john on December 29, 1998 at 23:13:28:
I went to your "SHOOTER.COM" and found an interesting and infomative site. True, it does contain an abundance of information on firearms, manufacturers and USA distributors. All of this information can be helpful in the selection of a firearm and provide the buyer with better understanding of the product before they purchase. To a user of the " Ontario Hunting" site, they are looking for information from a neigbour, a person they can trust, on locally available products, available to them in Ontario. It can be fustrating to a Canadian purchaser, particularly in Ontario, where this web site has been fostered to find a product , and try to soarce it, only to find that it is not available through reasonable methods in Ontario. "Shooter.com" has absolutly nothing on Canadian distributors. In view of the Federal goverment grazed laws on firearms, prices in Canada on used firearms are extremely low, coupled with an exchange rate of 54% on the USA dollar, I would rather shop presently in Canada, EH!
As to my comments on a 30.06: I currently own a Remington 760 carbide pump, that I have owned for 20 plus years. As I am perdomitly a upland game hunter, the pump action coincides with the action on my shotguns. For this reason I personnally find this rifle functional. I must note, that this rifle is particulary senitive to dirt, and must be kept clean at all times or the slide mechanism will not hold the firing pin in place.
Seeing how you are promoting other web sites, you might want to try huntinfo.com/wwwboard This another USA based site that will give addtional global information, but will not give LOCAL ONTARIO facts.
Posted by Big Bird on January 02, 1999 at 09:51:48:
In Reply to: Turkey posted by Kern on January 01, 1999 at 03:29:13:
Any time is a good time. Now is a good time to talk to landowners and get thei permission to use their land. Land owners will give you a idea if there is any game available.
Posted by Kern on January 01, 1999 at 03:29:13:
So when do you guys start scouting??? I didnt get out last year because i didnt have to much time to scout around. This year I at least want to see one even if its not behind the sites on the 10 ga!!
Posted by Kern on January 01, 1999 at 02:07:15:
In Reply to: 30-06 posted by Ruko on December 27, 1998 at 23:04:25:
Have a look at a Browning A-Bolt II. Short bolt throw(60 degree) for fast follow ups and If you get the BOSS added to this its a fine combination. Its available in 30-06 , 7mm Mag , and 300 Win Mag. Yes it costs a little more but with everything else in life, I think you get what you pay for.
BTW welcome to the board Ruko. Its not a very busy page but its Canadian.
Posted by MIKE on December 30, 1998 at 07:00:47:
In Reply to: 30-06 posted by Ruko on December 27, 1998 at 23:04:25:
I have a Remington 742 and love it.........as for this site.......I enjoy it...it may be slow but there is some good info here.......as for you negative people.if you don't like it...why do you keep coming back to it?????????
Posted by Nick on December 30, 1998 at 03:09:16:
In Reply to: Re: ducks/geese posted by Miker on December 29, 1998 at 08:41:33:
Miker, Where do you hunt in the Millbrook area ?? Are in Peterborough ?
Posted by john on December 29, 1998 at 23:13:28:
See JACK, See what I mean. Not even YOU gave an input on the 30-06
but you sure gave your input on my comments. And Your right Steve,
this is not a dead site but rather a sick site. Tired of my comments
PROVE me wrong and show the WORLD that this IS a GREAT site.
Posted by Jack on December 29, 1998 at 15:27:16:
In Reply to: Re: 30-06 posted by john on December 28, 1998 at 19:50:08:
John:
If you can not contribute anything possitive the don't contribute anything at all. I am personally get tired of your negative promotion of this ONTARIO site.
Posted by Jack on December 29, 1998 at 15:25:54:
In Reply to: Re: 30-06 posted by john on December 28, 1998 at 19:50:08:
John:
If you can not cntribute anything possitive the don't contribute anything at all. I am personally get tired of your negative promtion of this ONTARIO site.
Posted by Miker on December 29, 1998 at 08:41:33:
In Reply to: Re: ducks/geese posted by Nick on December 27, 1998 at 09:36:13:
The geese still fly out of the zoo in Peterborough for most of the winter. Usually to fields towards lakefield. Haven't hunted there in a couple years but used to do really well until the season closed. Lots of good shooting this year on Chemong and around Millbrook. Drill'em!
Posted by Steve Redgwell on December 28, 1998 at 20:10:26:
In Reply to: Re: 30-06 posted by john on December 28, 1998 at 19:50:08:
It's not dead - just very sick. Even with the little traffic here, there's something interesting every once in while. Safe Shooting! - Steve
Posted by Steve Redgwell on December 28, 1998 at 20:05:52:
In Reply to: 30-06 posted by Ruko on December 27, 1998 at 23:04:25:
Depends on how much money you want to spend and if you want fancy or functional. A new Savage is a good buy but I'd probably put an aftermarket recoil pad on it. It comes with a crappy plastic plate. A used Parker Hale in VG condition is a bargain at about $350 - 400 without a scope. Some stores have PH 1200s still in stock. It's a British rifle based on a Mauser 98 action. I have one in 270 and it shoots like a dream. Rem 700s and Win Model 70s IMO are overpriced for what you get but they're reliable and there's no shortage of parts and aftermarket accessories. The 30/06 is a good choice for practically any hunting application with ammunition easy to come by and, if you reload, lots of components. Safe Shooting! - Steve
Posted by john on December 28, 1998 at 19:50:08:
In Reply to: 30-06 posted by Ruko on December 27, 1998 at 23:04:25:
Like I mentioned before, unless it's close to hunting season
where we can discuss WMU and how lucky some of us our with
moose, white tail and such. THIS IS A DEAD Site. I'm CANADIAN to
EH, and I check this site once in a while but nothing interesting
happening here. Want info on a 30-06, goto shooters.com and you'll
get the info you'l need. Doesn't matter if it's a Canadian site or
American. If the sites not happening and not getting the info one needs
than it's a DEAD SITE. I too wish this site more active.
Posted by Tony Notarianni on December 28, 1998 at 14:46:30:
In Reply to: Canadian Firearms Info/Webpage posted by Shooters Companion on December 05, 1998 at 13:41:14:
Would it be possible if i could get a list of canadian gunsmiths ( southern ontario for shot gun repair ) e-mailed to my address that I have included in the slot above. It would be greatly appreciated .
TONY
Posted by Ruko on December 27, 1998 at 23:04:25:
any suggestion on a good make
Posted by Big Bird on December 27, 1998 at 11:16:45:
In Reply to: Re: It looks like you guys have a great page here posted by Mike on December 25, 1998 at 20:59:05:
Echo " Canadian EH!" This is the place for CANADIAN content. Too bad more do not use it.
Posted by Nick on December 27, 1998 at 09:36:13:
In Reply to: ducks/geese posted by Brad on December 19, 1998 at 11:53:43:
Brad,
Well its nice to see someone else from the Peterborough
way on here hunting for waterfowl ! If the lakes are frozen
then go to the fields for the geese ! The season closes on the 31st.
Good luck !!
Posted by Mike on December 25, 1998 at 20:59:05:
In Reply to: Re: It looks like you guys have a great page here posted by john on December 24, 1998 at 19:15:08:
At least this is a Canadian based page.......nothing against the American's....but if you want info for Canada, Ontario in particular, this is the place to be...........good shooting & Merry Christmas.............Mike
Posted by john on December 24, 1998 at 19:15:08:
In Reply to: It looks like you guys have a great page here posted by Ruko on December 21, 1998 at 21:12:48:
Don't be fooled, this is a dead site. Want good firearm related message boards, goto Shooters .com
Posted by Rick Dolezsar, Town Administrator on December 23, 1998 at 12:01:36:
In Reply to: Saskatchewan Disgrace posted by Dave Brown on March 31, 1998 at 22:05:42:
Dear Mr. Brown: On behalf of our community we are very sorry to hear about your experiences during your 1997 hunting trip. Please be assured that this is not representative of the quality of experience that is enjoyed by most hunters who visit our area.
There are many reputable outfitters in our area that will ensure you of a high quality hunt with impressive results. Once again please accept our sincere expression of concern for your unfortunate experience.
For furthur information on our community please visit our web site @ www.zipzone.com/hudsonbay Best of Luck in your future adventures Rick Dolezsar, R.M.A.
Posted by Fischer on December 22, 1998 at 10:05:25:
For any of you who don't visit the What's Bitin in Toronto BB...Posters there got fed up with seeing people breaking the law by snagging fish, etc. So, we decided to see what we could do about it. One idea that came forward was to develop a crest that we could wear letting people know that we are prepared to report fishing violators to Crimestoppers. The idea grew to include hunting violations. Ontario Federation of Anglers and Hunters has agreed to manufacture/distribute the crests, for about $3.50 each. They will also be made available to clubs at reduced cost for sale to their members or at fishing/hunting shows. If you want to see what the patch looks like you can go to: http://www.execulink.com/~fishboat/crimestoppers.html I will post again when the crests are available for ordering.
Posted by Skyman on December 22, 1998 at 01:55:02:
In Reply to: Small Game posted by Kern on October 17, 1998 at 15:15:47:
I have lot's of luck with woodcock, grouse and rabbits this year. This is in the Carnarvon area (Haliburton Highlands).
Posted by Ruko on December 21, 1998 at 21:12:48:
It looks like you gyus have a great message board here
it's taken me a long time to find a CANADIAN hunting board keep up the good work . i hope theirs alot of seasoned hunters out there that will share their knowledge ... {northern ontario resident}
Posted by Ruko on December 21, 1998 at 21:04:48:
It looks like you gyus have a great message board here
it's taken me a long time to find a CANADIAN hunting board keep up the good work . i hope theirs alot of seasoned hunters out there that will share their knowledge ... {northern ontario resident}
Posted by Brad on December 19, 1998 at 11:53:43:
I was out this morning thinking thtat there would be pockets open in the lake because its rainy here now.
Drove to pigeon lake --- Frozen, Emily ---frozen and Sturgeon too,
I guess this ends my season of duck hunting although there
have been people here getting nice numbers this week in the morning when the
lake wasn't frozen.
Happy hunting I guess I'll have to concentrate on deer again.
Posted by Nick on December 15, 1998 at 12:43:50:
Well....... I have not seen to many posts lately son I thought that I would
see what was going on. We have been out a couple of times
and have got a two Canadas. Still a lot of geese in our area. Our close date is Dec. 31 so still a lot time to bag a few more.
If the wife lets me go !?
Has anyone else been out ?
Posted by Fischer on December 14, 1998 at 09:22:06:
Looking for a reasonable priced 2-7X or 2.5-8X for my .280 Remington. Email with price please.
Posted by Ju Wah on December 11, 1998 at 16:06:36:
In Reply to: Deer in 60A posted by Andy on November 09, 1998 at 10:11:00:
Sorry I didn't see this post sooner. I also hunt in 60A, very close to Bancroft, and this year my party and I (4 people) managed t get one four pointer.
No anterless permits and of course we saw five does. Maybe next year! Best of the season to all and to you Andy. Regards
Posted by Shooters Companion on December 05, 1998 at 13:41:14:
For info listed below, please visit http://www3.sympatico.ca/shooters Go to the bottom of the page for CANADIAN FIREARMS MANUAL
Ontario Gun Shop Listings
Dealer/owner verifier info
Pix of Calamity Jane and Fighting Ferolie
SCFO provincial contact names & phone nos
Fed Up Canada webpage
MP/Senator addresses/email access Updates happen quickly. Bookmark and check back. If you have info
concerning the topics on this site, email. Safe Shooting!
Steve Redgwell
Shooter's Companion
Posted by Fischer on December 01, 1998 at 08:53:23:
In Reply to: "Animal Rights" people to ban most pets in Toronto posted by Jonathan Higbee on November 29, 1998 at 21:41:23:
I've read the bylaw and don't believe it's nearly as restrictive as you're portraying. They are also looking at watering down several sections of it that deal with "pocket" pets. The bylaw doesn't mandate door to door searches, so if you want to keep your "pet" at home and not parade it around, nobody will know you have it. End of problem. I've had my share of dealings with freaks and jerks who get a stiffy by being the proud owner of an exotic just so they can do their Tarzan act. Many of those who want exotic pets know squat about them and are just looking for that little extra charge they can't get out of a pit-bull or rottweiler! Most hunters are well aware of the dangers of exotic species being introduced into our eco-system. Many of these exotic "pets" could devastate many of our wild species. There are big concerns about exotic species agriculture. Look, too, at the problems of feral cats and rabbits in Australia. Yes, cats are exotic to Australia's unique eco-system and when they go feral (usually in one generation) they are as dangerous to local species as any other wild animal. BTW, my own cats stay indoors, to avoid that and other problems. I've no love lost for "anti's", but I also have no interest in supporting people who think a "walk on the wild side" has to involve a wild animal!
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204.101.15.150Test- please ignore
128.100.72.138
128.100.72.138Re: coyote hunting tips
207.109.87.20
207.109.87.20Re: Finally a hunting bulliton board in Canada!
blva01.hrdc-drhc.gc.ca
198.103.153.3Re: Rifles for Whitetails
ts3-7t-44.idirect.com
209.161.227.44Re: Rifles for Whitetails
ts3-7t-44.idirect.com
209.161.227.44Re: Rifles for Whitetails
ppp17728.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.131.128Re: Rifles for Whitetails
ns1.interlinks.net
207.107.160.1Re: moose population
dialup14.hamilton.net
204.214.132.104Re: coyote hunting tips
spider-wg061.proxy.aol.com
205.188.196.468 point from 43A
ppp10534.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.183.229Re: Rifles for Whitetails
liv6-18.oshawa.idirect.com
216.154.7.113Re: Rifles for Whitetails
128.100.156.33
128.100.156.33Ontario coyote
ppp10433.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.183.128Re: Rifles for Whitetails
ppp10433.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.183.128Re: Rifles for Whitetails
207.164.1.226
207.164.1.226Rifles for Whitetails
blva01.hrdc-drhc.gc.ca
198.103.153.3Re: members deer camp
blva01.hrdc-drhc.gc.ca
198.103.153.3Re: members deer camp
blva01.hrdc-drhc.gc.ca
198.103.153.3Re: Not even one?
207.164.1.226
207.164.1.226members deer camp
nc-tor-cache1.connection.ca
206.186.56.10Not even one?
ppp10486.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.183.181Check out this website!!
207.164.1.226
207.164.1.226Any NFA members?
ppp10478.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.183.173Re: M.Lastman wants to ban guns in TO
128.100.156.33
128.100.156.33A refreshing viewpoint
207.164.1.226
207.164.1.226high gasoline prices
207.210.17.141
207.210.17.141Re: M.Lastman wants to ban guns in TO
205.175.223.11
205.175.223.11Re: Mel sounds like an ASS
ppp10486.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.183.181Re: M.Lastman wants to ban guns in TO
usr1-14.interlinks.net
209.5.79.14Mel sounds like an ASS
ppp10411.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.183.106M.Lastman wants to ban guns in TO
proxy1.mtmc1.on.wave.home.com
24.66.127.33Re: It Will Be Beat
ppp10454.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.183.149Re: It Will Be Beat
205.175.223.11
205.175.223.11Re: Ture.....(no text)
128.100.156.33
128.100.156.33It Will Be Beat
ppp10469.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.183.164Re:It Will Be Beat
128.100.156.28
128.100.156.28Re: archery
ppp12891.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.162.90Re: Where do you hunt and what do you hunt?
142.145.104.70
142.145.104.70Re:It Will Be Beat
ppp10491.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.183.186Beating Gun Control
proxy1.mtmc1.on.wave.home.com
24.66.127.33Re: Saskatchewan Spring Bear article
ppp10461.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.183.156Saskatchewan Spring Bear article
207.164.1.226
207.164.1.226Re: Hey Harris
207.164.1.226
207.164.1.226Hey Harris
ppp10452.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.183.147Re: Tried it, couldn't get an answer! No msg.
ppp10452.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.183.147Tried it, couldn't get an answer! No msg.
207.164.1.226
207.164.1.226Re: archery
207.210.17.102
207.210.17.102Re: archery
hse-pet-ppp39026.sympatico.ca
206.172.233.61Re: It`s time to get off your ass!
hse-pet-ppp39026.sympatico.ca
206.172.233.61It`s time to get off your ass!
ppp10484.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.183.179303 Page - Features
ppp14082.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.167.81Re: archery
207.210.17.140
207.210.17.140Re: New 303 Page
ppp14178.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.167.177Re: Spring Bear Hunt
209.121.47.254
209.121.47.254Re: New 303 Page
128.100.156.33
128.100.156.33Re: archery
ppp12856.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.162.55archery
207.210.17.121
207.210.17.121Meldrum Bay, Manitoulin Island
dial72.nas.net
199.243.225.72Re: Wanted: Bolt action 30-06
ppp10417.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.183.112Wanted: Bolt action 30-06
trebuser.trebnet.com
207.61.130.3Orphan black bear cub shot
ppp10441.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.183.136Re: Bowfishing
spider-tp034.proxy.aol.com
152.163.204.189Gun Registry - Excellent article
207.164.1.226
207.164.1.226Re: Feds' gun registry 'a farce'
cr788502-a.glph1.on.wave.home.com
24.112.111.6Re: Bowfishing
modem-1757.rns.tamu.edu
165.91.71.28Re: Feds' gun registry 'a farce'
ppp14030.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.167.29Re: Feds' gun registry 'a farce'
ppp10504.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.183.199Re: Feds' gun registry 'a farce'
ppp14110.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.167.109Re: Feds' gun registry 'a farce'
ppp10511.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.183.206Re: Feds' gun registry 'a farce'
209.5.79.37
209.5.79.37Feds' gun registry 'a farce'
cr788502-a.glph1.on.wave.home.com
24.112.111.6Re: Welcome!
ppp10542.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.183.237Re: Welcome!
cache.nexicom.net
216.168.96.29Black bears again!
ppp10445.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.183.140New 303 Page
ppp14035.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.167.34Re: Where do you hunt and what do you hunt?
itchy1-7-13.ionsys.com
209.112.8.13Re: Shotguns
itchy1-7-13.ionsys.com
209.112.8.13Welcome!
ppp10439.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.183.134Finally a hunting bulliton board in Canada!
cache.nexicom.net
216.168.96.29Re: Black bears again!
ppp10475.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.183.170Re: Black bears again!
207.164.1.226
207.164.1.226Re: Where do you hunt and what do you hunt?
207.164.1.226
207.164.1.226Re: Thunder Bay Grouse
air-183-213.air.on.ca
206.186.183.213Re: Shotguns
metro1-463.yesic.com
216.13.110.209Re: Where do you hunt and what do you hunt?
metro1-463.yesic.com
216.13.110.209Shotguns
d21-xa101h2-toro-pdi.attcanada.net
142.194.189.21Black bears again!
ppp10428.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.183.123Re: Where do you hunt and what do you hunt?
d2-xa104h2-toro-pdi.attcanada.net
142.194.183.2Re: Where do you hunt and what do you hunt?
ppp10429.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.183.124Re: Where do you hunt and what do you hunt?
d157-xa101h2-toro-pdi.attcanada.net
142.194.189.157Re: Where do you hunt and what do you hunt?
207.164.1.226
207.164.1.226Re: Thunder Bay Grouse
itchy9-35-185.ionsys.com
209.112.9.185Re: Where do you hunt and what do you hunt?
air-183-104.air.on.ca
206.186.183.104Re: Where do you hunt and what do you hunt?
ppp10461.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.183.156Re: Where do you hunt and what do you hunt?
ppp10461.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.183.156Re: Where do you hunt and what do you hunt?
d200-xa101h1-toro-pdi.attcanada.net
142.194.190.200Re: Where do you hunt and what do you hunt?
ppp10474.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.183.169Re: Where do you hunt and what do you hunt?
ppp7349.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.207.77Where do you hunt and what do you hunt?
ppp12870.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.162.69Re: Load Data Needed
210-55-193-17.dds.xtra.co.nz
210.55.193.17Re: BARBEQUE!!!
d142-xa102h2-toro-pdi.attcanada.net
142.194.187.142BARBEQUE!!!
net128-94-dyn.flemingc.on.ca
142.237.128.94Re: Waterfowling
ppp3874.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.218.34Re: Black bears again!
d120-xa104h1-toro-pdi.attcanada.net
142.194.184.120Re: Black bears again!
ppp3874.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.218.34Re: Waterfowling
itchy7-9-63.ionsys.com
209.112.9.63Re: Black bears again!
d120-xa104h1-toro-pdi.attcanada.net
142.194.184.120Re: Black bears again!
ppp12827.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.162.26Re: Black bears again!
exodus.mke.ra.rockwell.com
192.94.123.19Re: Waterfowling
exodus.mke.ra.rockwell.com
192.94.123.19Re: Black bears again!
d68-xa101h1-toro-pdi.attcanada.net
142.194.190.68Black bears again!
ppp10468.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.183.163Re: Waterfowling
firewall.dofasco.ca
192.139.152.130Re: Waterfowling
ppp10495.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.183.190Re: Waterfowling
itchy6-34-40.ionsys.com
209.112.9.40Re: Waterfowling
dyn206-48-121-158.cha.mnsi.net
206.48.121.158Re: Waterfowling
d216-xa103h2-toro-pdi.attcanada.net
142.194.185.216Waterfowling
ppp10432.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.183.127Re: WATCHDOG BITES SCHAD FOUNDATION - Original posted by Dobber Bobber
ns1.interlinks.net
207.107.160.1Re: Black bear killed
d91-xa102h2-toro-pdi.attcanada.net
142.194.187.91Re: Black bear killed
net129-109-dyn.flemingc.on.ca
142.237.129.109Re: Black bear killed
air-183-228.air.on.ca
206.186.183.228Re: voting day
ppp10505.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.183.200Re: voting day
d157-xa102h2-toro-pdi.attcanada.net
142.194.187.157Re: voting day
128.100.156.33
128.100.156.33Re: MOOOOOOOOOOSE
ppp12921.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.162.120Re: Black bear killed
net129-72-dyn.flemingc.on.ca
142.237.129.72Re: Black bear killed
net129-72-dyn.flemingc.on.ca
142.237.129.72Re: Black bear killed
net129-72-dyn.flemingc.on.ca
142.237.129.72voting day
ppp10440.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.183.135Re: Black bear killed
ppp12862.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.162.61Re: Black bear killed
128.100.156.33
128.100.156.33Re: calibre question
128.100.156.33
128.100.156.33Re: Any takers?
ppp10418.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.183.113Any takers?
tim-annex2-port11.vianet.on.ca
204.187.88.183Re: Your opinions on the Ruger Mini-30 .308
tim-annex-port13.vianet.on.ca
204.187.88.113Re: calibre question
ppp10539.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.183.234Re: Tags
d67-xa103h2-toro-pdi.attcanada.net
142.194.185.67calibre question
cr788502-a.glph1.on.wave.home.com
24.112.111.6Re: Tags
ppp10436.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.183.131Re: Tags
d227-xa101h1-toro-pdi.attcanada.net
142.194.190.227Black bear enters house
ppp10468.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.183.163Re: steel shot
1cust214.tnt4.new-orleans.la.da.uu.net
208.250.15.214Re: First timer
1cust214.tnt4.new-orleans.la.da.uu.net
208.250.15.214Re: New Duck hunting web
1cust214.tnt4.new-orleans.la.da.uu.net
208.250.15.214Re: Goose Hunting
1cust30.tnt2.new-orleans.la.da.uu.net
208.250.10.30Black bear killed
ppp10426.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.183.121Re: Tags
liv6-22.oshawa.idirect.com
216.154.7.117Re: Tags
ppp10426.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.183.121Tags
d18-xa101h1-toro-pdi.attcanada.net
142.194.190.18Re: 20 Gauge for ducks, am I nuts??
d157-xa101h1-toro-pdi.attcanada.net
142.194.190.157Re: looking for a semi-auto shotgun
d231-xa101h2-toro-pdi.attcanada.net
142.194.189.231Re: Turkey calling
metro1-693.yesic.com
216.13.111.185Re: WATCHDOG BITES SCHAD FOUNDATION - Original posted by Dobber Bobber
ppp12818.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.162.17WATCHDOG BITES SCHAD FOUNDATION - Original posted by Dobber Bobber
207.164.1.226
207.164.1.226Re: Gun range close to Toronto??
proxy1.rchhl1.on.wave.home.com
24.64.191.33Re: MOOOOOOOOOOSE
ppp12849.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.162.48Gun range close to Toronto??
trebuser.trebnet.com
207.61.130.3Re: Thanks Guys!!
trebuser.trebnet.com
207.61.130.3Re: Chuck Hunting???
128.100.156.33
128.100.156.33Re: Chuck Hunting??? WHERE????????
207.164.1.226
207.164.1.226Re: Chuck Hunting??? WHERE????????
trebuser.trebnet.com
207.61.130.3Re: Chuck Hunting???
128.100.156.33
128.100.156.33Re: Turkey calling
liv5-15.oshawa.idirect.com
216.154.7.62Re: Chuck Hunting???
liv5-15.oshawa.idirect.com
216.154.7.62Re: MOOOOOOOOOOSE
ppp14040.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.167.39Chuck Hunting???
128.100.156.32
128.100.156.32MOOOOOOOOOOSE
128.100.156.32
128.100.156.32Re: coyote hunting tips
cacheflow.bright.net
209.143.1.244Re: poss.world record buck
tc01-cv-182.cv.anc.net
206.31.127.202REMINGTON M700 SENDERO SF FOR SALE.
ts6-23t-13.idirect.com
216.154.2.205Re: Manitoba Spring Bear Hunt
207.164.1.226
207.164.1.226Re: Manitoba Spring Bear Hunt
proxy1.rchhl1.on.wave.home.com
24.64.191.33Re: This has nothing to do with GOOSE HUNTING
207.164.1.226
207.164.1.226Re: Thank you Tackleberry! nmsg
dialin722.toronto.globalserve.net
209.90.132.213GOOSE HUNTING
142.165.26.204
142.165.26.204Manitoba Spring Bear Hunt
207.164.1.226
207.164.1.226Turkey calling
metro1-463.yesic.com
216.13.110.209Re: Gun control and suicides
128.100.156.32
128.100.156.32Re: Question about HG barrel lengths
128.100.156.32
128.100.156.32Re: Your opinions on the Ruger Mini-30 .308
128.100.156.32
128.100.156.32Re: It all looks fake!
205.221.191.2
205.221.191.2Re: It all looks fake!
205.221.191.2
205.221.191.2Re: It all looks fake!
205.221.191.2
205.221.191.2Your opinions on the Ruger Mini-30 .308
trebuser.trebnet.com
207.61.130.3On-line Gunsmith
spc-isp-tor-58-3-224.sprint.ca
149.99.70.224Load Data Needed
ppp14138.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.167.137kik
spc-isp-tor-58-3-180.sprint.ca
149.99.70.180Re: looking for a semi-auto shotgun
cr788502-a.glph1.on.wave.home.com
24.112.111.6HANDGUNS FOR SALE
ts3-2t-113.tor.idirect.com
209.161.224.241HANDGUNS FOR SALE
ts3-2t-113.tor.idirect.com
209.161.224.241Re: looking for a semi-auto shotgun
ts6-3o-13.idirect.com
216.154.6.77'99 Hunting regs
ts6-3o-13.idirect.com
216.154.6.77kol
spc-isp-tor-58-3-76.sprint.ca
149.99.70.76kol
spc-isp-tor-58-3-76.sprint.ca
149.99.70.76Hunt page
dyn208-28-61-21.cha.mnsi.net
208.28.61.21Re: Animal Rights Scam
207.164.1.226
207.164.1.226Animal Rights Scam
proxy1.rchhl1.on.wave.home.com
24.64.191.33Re: looking for a semi-auto shotgun
attfw2.goodyear.com
12.4.195.254Re: coyote hunting tips
208.235.55.155
208.235.55.155looking for a semi-auto shotgun
cr788502-a.glph1.on.wave.home.com
24.112.111.6Re: New hunting Site -- I have place a Hunting Chat room on the site
spc-isp-tor-58-3-15.sprint.ca
149.99.70.15New Duck hunting web
fl-mi-tc2-port-195.lsl.com
209.69.157.195Re: Crows
mrtc202.eastky.net
208.157.9.66Re: Crows
mrtc202.eastky.net
208.157.9.66Online Poacher Reporting System
ppp165.a1-2.56k.execulink.com
209.239.9.237REMINGTON M700 SENDERO SF FOR SALE.
ts6-37t-8.idirect.com
216.154.4.136Re: Saskatchewan Disgrace
cacheflow2.sasknet.sk.ca
142.165.5.142Re: IF YOU ARE A TRUE HUNTER, READ THIS NOW!
newfolden-55.newfolden.k12.mn.us
206.9.86.55Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail
b106.washjeff.edu
204.171.149.106Re: TURKEY SEASON!
metro1-385.yesic.com
216.13.110.131Re: TURKEY SEASON!
ppp12915.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.162.114Big Buck Day
ns1.interlinks.net
207.107.160.1Chicken Red
osh-on2-43.netcom.ca
207.181.79.171Re: New hunting Site -- I have place a Hunting Chat room on the site
ajax2-3.yesic.com
209.167.8.131Re: New hunting Site -- I have place a Hunting Chat room on the site
ts3-2t-33.tor.idirect.com
209.161.224.161Re: Looking for Red
ts3-2t-33.tor.idirect.com
209.161.224.161Re: Question about HG barrel lengths
ts3-2t-33.tor.idirect.com
209.161.224.161Re: Spring Bear
proxy1.rchhl1.on.wave.home.com
24.64.191.33Re: Spring Bear
proxy1.rchhl1.on.wave.home.com
24.64.191.33Re: Ontario Out Of Doors Magazine
proxy1.rchhl1.on.wave.home.com
24.64.191.33Re: Looking for Red
207.164.1.226
207.164.1.226Re: Question about HG barrel lengths
ajax2-12.yesic.com
209.167.8.140New hunting Site -- I have place a Hunting Chat room on the site
ajax2-12.yesic.com
209.167.8.140Question about HG barrel lengths
207.164.1.226
207.164.1.226Re: Looking for Red
osh-on4-40.netcom.ca
207.181.79.232Re: I have built a hunting site for ontario hunters
128.100.156.32
128.100.156.32Re: Looking for Red
ts3-2t-93.tor.idirect.com
209.161.224.221Looking for Red
207.164.1.226
207.164.1.226Re: IF YOU ARE A TRUE HUNTER, READ THIS NOW!
spri001-058.cybertours.com
209.222.83.58Re: Snowshoe Hare
american.ben.edu
192.217.134.10Re: Snowshoe Hare
american.ben.edu
192.217.134.10FAC (actually "PAL"!) courses and exams
proxy1.rchhl1.on.wave.home.com
24.64.191.33I have built a hunting site for ontario hunters
ajax2-28.yesic.com
209.167.8.156Re: TURKEY SEASON!
spc-isp-tor-uas-75-32.sprint.ca
209.148.139.83Re: TURKEY SEASON!
metro1-96.yesic.com
216.13.109.96Re: Ontario Out Of Doors Magazine
metro1-96.yesic.com
216.13.109.96TURKEY SEASON!
12.4.195.254
12.4.195.254Re: Ontario Out Of Doors Magazine
exodus.mke.ra.rockwell.com
192.94.123.19Ontario Out Of Doors Magazine
metro1-488.yesic.com
216.13.110.234Re: Gun control and suicides
ts3-2t-90.tor.idirect.com
209.161.224.218Re: First timer
dyn208-28-61-72.cha.mnsi.net
208.28.61.72Re: First timer
128.100.156.33
128.100.156.33First timer
216.13.110.110
216.13.110.110Re: Snowshoe Hare
204.228.118.66
204.228.118.66Re: Gun control and suicides
ns1.interlinks.net
207.107.160.1Re: Small Game
ts7-3ot-45.idirect.com
209.161.240.140Re: Gun control and suicides
as7-47.iaw.on.ca
209.5.118.106Bowmanville Big buck Day
ns1.interlinks.net
207.107.160.1Gun control and suicides
207.164.1.226
207.164.1.226Re: poss.world record buck
ns1.interlinks.net
207.107.160.1Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail
dialup119.tncam.usit.net
205.241.200.153Re: Make a difference on the bear ban issue
ip21.ts6.mn.dialup.ottawa.cyberus.ca
209.195.85.21poss.world record buck
interceptd3.salamander.com
206.29.226.216Spring Bear
dyn208-28-61-45.cha.mnsi.net
208.28.61.45Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail
tp-home.ouhsc.edu
157.142.20.7712 pt buck
ppp7304.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.207.32Re: trouter1@hotmail.com
199.198.212.98
199.198.212.98Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail
192.70.218.5
192.70.218.5Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail
fw1.courant.com
198.179.239.140REMINGTON M700 SENDERO SF FOR SALE.
ts6-17t-23.idirect.com
216.154.2.23Re: steel shot
dyn206-48-121-137.cha.mnsi.net
206.48.121.137Re: It all looks fake!
hyd164.kih.net
209.209.182.164Re: steel shot
142.143.208.37
142.143.208.37Re: steel shot
exodus.mke.ra.rockwell.com
192.94.123.19steel shot
128.100.156.28
128.100.156.28Re: Geese
128.100.156.28
128.100.156.28WRITE YOUR MPP
as7-7.iaw.on.ca
209.5.118.66Re: It all looks fake!
ppp27.shelbynet.net
206.246.132.127Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail
wchest-dialup097.nni.com
216.107.12.227Re: Snowshoe Hare
proxy1-external.sttls1.wa.home.com
24.4.254.128IF YOU ARE A TRUE HUNTER, READ THIS NOW!
dhcp-101-108.cns.ohiou.edu
132.235.101.108Geese
exodus.mke.ra.rockwell.com
192.94.123.19Re: Calls
washburn.uti.com
207.227.15.143Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail
wrtc06-96.wrtc.com
206.29.96.129spring bear hunt
ts3-dl-148.voyageur.ca
207.236.9.148Re: turkey calls
exodus.mke.ra.rockwell.com
192.94.123.19N.A.V.H.D.A.
as2-28.iaw.on.ca
209.5.116.202turkey calls
ts6-37t-25.idirect.com
216.154.4.153Re: Bowfishing
sarpm1-ip48.xcelco.on.ca
209.167.188.247Re: 12 gauge bolt action
dyn208-6-75-168.cha.mnsi.net
208.6.75.168Re: 12 gauge bolt action
dyn208-6-75-168.cha.mnsi.net
208.6.75.168Re: Bowfishing
ts7-10o-4.idirect.com
216.154.8.52Re: 12 gauge bolt action
ts7-10o-4.idirect.com
216.154.8.5212 gauge bolt action
tmns4-7.onlink.net
207.210.49.117Bowfishing
net128-123-dyn.flemingc.on.ca
142.237.128.123GPS 4 SALE
ts7-1t-42.idirect.com
209.161.228.74Re: Make a difference on the bear ban issue
ns1.interlinks.net
207.107.160.1Re: Spring Bear Hunt
ppp18122.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.129.42Re: Bear Hunt Rally
ppp18122.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.129.42Re: trouter1@hotmail.com
ppp18122.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.129.42Make a difference on the bear ban issue
ppp192.kawartha.com
204.101.15.192Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail
128.206.186.123
128.206.186.123Let the truth be known.
128.206.186.123
128.206.186.123Re: It has been scored so rumor has it!
bottyan.pressenter.com
209.224.20.158Re: Crossbows
ppp7289.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.207.17Re: The cancellation of the spring bear hunt is only the beginning!!!
ns1.interlinks.net
207.107.160.1Thanx for info, and Whoops loks like I put email in the wrong spot
trebuser.trebnet.com
207.61.130.3Re: trouter1@hotmail.com
ts7-1t-40.idirect.com
209.161.228.72Columbia Quad Parkas
dyn208-6-75-144.cha.mnsi.net
208.6.75.144Re: trouter1@hotmail.com
dyn208-6-75-144.cha.mnsi.net
208.6.75.144This is only the begining!!!
spc-isp-tor-uas-75-22.sprint.ca
209.148.139.73This is only the begining!!!
spc-isp-tor-uas-75-22.sprint.ca
209.148.139.73This is only the begining!!!
spc-isp-tor-uas-75-22.sprint.ca
209.148.139.73Re: trouter1@hotmail.com
tmns5-7.onlink.net
207.210.49.101Re: trouter1@hotmail.com
tmns5-7.onlink.net
207.210.49.101The cancellation of the spring bear hunt is only the beginning!!!
spc-isp-tor-uas-75-22.sprint.ca
209.148.139.73Re: trouter1@hotmail.com
ppp14037.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.167.36Re: Thanx guys!!!!! n/m
trebuser.trebnet.com
207.61.130.3trouter1@hotmail.com
trebuser.trebnet.com
207.61.130.3Re: C68 New Licencing & You !!
ts7-2t-39.idirect.com
209.161.228.119GARMIN GPS12XL 4 SALE
ts7-2t-39.idirect.com
209.161.228.119Licencing Fees
128.100.156.32
128.100.156.32Re: C68 New Licencing & You !!
128.100.156.32
128.100.156.32Re: C68 New Licencing & You !!
128.100.156.32
128.100.156.32Re: C68 New Licencing & You !!
128.100.156.32
128.100.156.32Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail
cf.apex.net
207.87.196.10Re: C68 New Licencing & You !!
liv7-1.oshawa.idirect.com
216.154.7.144Re: C68 New Licencing & You !!
ts7-1t-38.idirect.com
209.161.228.70C68 New Licencing & You !!
128.100.156.32
128.100.156.32C68 New Licencing & You !!
128.100.156.32
128.100.156.32Re: Crossbows
128.100.156.32
128.100.156.32Re: Rompola buck scored (maybe?)
user-38h1sjp.dialup.mindspring.com
209.16.242.121Bear Hunt Rally
ns1.interlinks.net
207.107.160.1DEER STANDS
dial-17.r11.scptvl.infoave.net
204.116.21.217Re: Crossbows
ppp12961.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.162.160Re: ducks/geese
ppp12851.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.162.50Re: ducks/geese
fs40.rider.edu
204.142.224.40Re: Public Acsess hunting areas??
ppp7285.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.207.13Re: Things you see from your deer stand!
spider-tr062.proxy.aol.com
152.163.201.202Crossbows
ppp7309.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.207.37Re: where are we from
ip106.ts8.mn.dialup.ottawa.cyberus.ca
209.195.85.106Re: Public Acsess hunting areas??
exodus.mke.ra.rockwell.com
192.94.123.19Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail
pm309-11.dialip.mich.net
198.111.189.21Re: News Media
ts7-1t-43.idirect.com
209.161.228.75Re: News Media
ts7-1t-43.idirect.com
209.161.228.75Re: News Media
ns1.interlinks.net
207.107.160.1Public Acsess hunting areas??
trebuser.trebnet.com
207.61.130.3Re: Can U Recommend an Outfitter?
rac8-14.avana.net
206.229.101.120Re: Behind the scenes at the bear hunt
dyn208-28-60-1.cha.mnsi.net
208.28.60.1Re: Behind the scenes at the bear hunt
dyn208-28-60-1.cha.mnsi.net
208.28.60.1Can U Recommend an Outfitter?
ppp6529.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.208.121Re: Ontario Out of Doors: What Happened?
ns1.interlinks.net
207.107.160.1Re: News Media
ts7-1t-41.idirect.com
209.161.228.73Re: Ontario Out of Doors: What Happened?
ppp14139.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.167.138Re: Behind the scenes at the bear hunt
207.164.1.226
207.164.1.226Re: Spring Bear Hunt
ns1.interlinks.net
207.107.160.1Re: Ontario Out of Doors: What Happened?
ns1.interlinks.net
207.107.160.1Re: Ontario Out of Doors: What Happened?
ppp14124.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.167.123Re: Ontario Out of Doors: What Happened?
ppp14124.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.167.123Re: Spring Bear Hunt
ts7-9o-14.idirect.com
207.136.102.206Behind the scenes at the bear hunt
ns1.interlinks.net
207.107.160.1Re: News Media
ns1.interlinks.net
207.107.160.1Re: Spring Bear Hunt
ns1.interlinks.net
207.107.160.1Re: Spring Bear Hunt
207.164.1.226
207.164.1.226Re: Spring Bear Hunt
u141.n96.queensu.ca
130.15.96.141Re: Ontario Out of Doors: What Happened?
ns1.interlinks.net
207.107.160.1Re: News Media
ts7-34t-33.idirect.com
209.161.242.80Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail
209.3.112.90
209.3.112.90Re: News Media
ns1.interlinks.net
207.107.160.1Re: It all looks fake!
207.193.154.28
207.193.154.28Spring Bear Hunt
coyote.zoo.utoronto.ca
128.100.72.138
Type of Posting: Regulation
Ministry: Natural Resources
Status of Posting: Proposal
Comment Period: 30 day(s)
Written submissions may be made between January 21, 1999 and February 20, 1999.
Closure of spring season for hunting black bear: amendment to Ontario Regulation 670/98
(Open Seasons - Wildlife) made under the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Act
In the past, the spring black bear (hereinafter referred to as bear) hunt was conducted each
year from April 15 to June 15 in most of the province. The government proposes to end
the spring bear hunt prior to it commencing in spring, 1999.
To eliminate the mistaken shooting of female bears with young cubs during the spring
open hunting season.
***For the purpose of this notice, written comments are to be submitted to the Minister
of Natural Resources (mailing address and fax number listed below). Persons seeking
additional information may contact (705) 755-1902/(705) 755-2117 fax.
Wildlife population and habitat management activities are subject to Exemption Order
MNR-42 made under the Environmental Assessment Act. In accordance with this order,
MNR has given notice of this proposal via a province-wide news release. Public comment
is also being invited through newspaper advertisements and a direct mailing to stakeholder groups.
The objective of this proposal is to eliminate the mistaken shooting of female bears with
young cubs during the spring hunting season.
The Hon. John Snobelen
Minister of Natural Resources
6th Floor, Whitney Block, 99 Wellesley Street West
Toronto, Ontario, M7A 1W3
PHONE: (705) 755-1902 FAX: (705) 755-2117
AND
http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca
(a) are submitted in writing;
(b) reference the EBR Registry number; and
(c) are received by the Contact person within the specified comment period.
Rompola buck scored (maybe?)
xcorpfw101.inacom.com
206.156.243.40It has been scored so rumor has it!
xcorpfw101.inacom.com
206.156.243.40Re: Ontario Out of Doors: What Happened?
as3-32.iaw.on.ca
209.5.117.41Re: coyote huting sd.
209.105.52.19
209.105.52.19Re: coyote huting sd.
209.105.52.19
209.105.52.19Re: coyote huting sd.
209.105.52.19
209.105.52.19Re: News Media
as5-28.iaw.on.ca
209.5.117.217Re: News Media
ts7-52t-41.idirect.com
209.161.245.232Re: coyote hunting tips
kraken.execpc.com
169.207.3.5Ontario Out of Doors: What Happened?
ppp14079.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.167.78Re: Ontario spring bear hunt banned.
cache.penn.com
208.29.101.4Re: News Media
ns1.interlinks.net
207.107.160.1Re: News Media
ts7-37t-11.idirect.com
209.161.242.202News Media
as1-42.iaw.on.ca
209.5.116.170Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail
128.255.225.49
128.255.225.49Re: Remains of Deer
spider-te061.proxy.aol.com
152.163.195.201FIREARMS 4 SALE
ts7-35t-27.idirect.com
209.161.242.122FIREARMS 4 SALE
ts7-35t-27.idirect.com
209.161.242.1224 SALE
ts7-35t-27.idirect.com
209.161.242.122Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail
swcrsk02d01030142.sk.sympatico.ca
142.165.106.44Re: Things you see from your deer stand!
hyd167.kih.net
209.209.182.167Re: Ontario spring bear hunt banned.
dyn208-28-60-56.cha.mnsi.net
208.28.60.56Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail
coyote.zoo.utoronto.ca
128.100.72.138Re: Ontario spring bear hunt banned.
coyote.zoo.utoronto.ca
128.100.72.138Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail
ppp056.cr.centuryinter.net
209.206.132.70Re: coyote hunting tips
hyd170.kih.net
209.209.182.170Re: Ontario spring bear hunt banned.
ns1.interlinks.net
207.107.160.1Re: Ontario spring bear hunt banned.
coyote.zoo.utoronto.ca
128.100.72.138Re: coyote hunting tips
ns1.interlinks.net
207.107.160.1Re: coyote hunting tips
ppp2885.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.255.5Re: Ontario spring bear hunt banned.
liv7-16.oshawa.idirect.com
209.161.213.144Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail
ppp-207-193-22-179.stlsmo.swbell.net
207.193.22.179Re: Mike
hyd174.kih.net
209.209.182.174Re: coyote hunting tips
hyd174.kih.net
209.209.182.174Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail
lfkn-ddas1-a15.lcc.net
207.70.143.15Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail
lfkn-ddas1-a15.lcc.net
207.70.143.15Re: Ontario spring bear hunt banned.
ns1.interlinks.net
207.107.160.1Re: Ontario spring bear hunt banned.
dyn208-28-60-165.cha.mnsi.net
208.28.60.165Re: coyote hunting questions
chtw01-1-15.pei.sympatico.ca
207.34.30.15Re: FIREARMS FOR SALE
207.31.75.134
207.31.75.134Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail
ncgd-pri1-a10.lcc.net
207.70.140.10Re: Ontario spring bear hunt banned.
207.164.1.226
207.164.1.226Re: coyote hunting tips
ppp14154.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.167.153Re: coyote hunting tips
ns1.interlinks.net
207.107.160.1Re: Late season Goose hunt, anyone looking for company???
dyn206-48-121-168.cha.mnsi.net
206.48.121.168Re: coyote hunting tips
dyn206-48-121-168.cha.mnsi.net
206.48.121.168Re: Ontario spring bear hunt banned.
dyn206-48-121-168.cha.mnsi.net
206.48.121.168Re: 20 Gauge for ducks, am I nuts??
dyn206-48-121-168.cha.mnsi.net
206.48.121.168THERE IS JUST SOMETHING WRONG!
ts1698.connect.ab.ca
207.34.74.98It all looks fake!
ts13110.connect.ab.ca
207.34.96.110Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail
209.175.208.125
209.175.208.125coyote hunting tips
hyd163.kih.net
209.209.182.163Tips on coyote hunting.
hyd163.kih.net
209.209.182.163Re: During the day?
hyd163.kih.net
209.209.182.163Ontario spring bear hunt banned.
ns1.interlinks.net
207.107.160.1Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail
209150224023.clarityconnect.com
209.150.224.23Re: Game count
as1-39.iaw.on.ca
209.5.116.167Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail
chester12.midwest.net
208.235.4.22Re: Late Goose season dates
142.143.208.37
142.143.208.37Late Goose season dates
ts7-10o-46.idirect.com
209.161.208.238Re: Thanks for all the input!! nmsg.
trebuser.trebnet.com
207.61.130.3Late season Goose hunt, anyone looking for company???
trebuser.trebnet.com
207.61.130.3Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail
134.194.27.129
134.194.27.129Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail
134.194.27.129
134.194.27.129Re: GPS comparision
node145.net1.fundy.net
24.231.1.145Re: 20 Gauge for ducks, am I nuts??
liv3-32.oshawa.idirect.com
207.136.121.160Re: 20 Gauge for ducks, am I nuts??
tmns11-7.onlink.net
207.210.96.133Re: 20 Gauge for ducks, am I nuts??
firewall.dofasco.ca
192.139.152.1Re: Brampton
ts5-5t-51.idirect.com
209.161.209.52Re: 20 Gauge for ducks, am I nuts??
itchy2-8-62.ionsys.com
209.112.8.6220 Gauge for ducks, am I nuts??
trebuser.trebnet.com
207.61.130.320 Gauge for ducks, am I nuts??
trebuser.trebnet.com
207.61.130.3Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail
lou72.wabash.net
208.145.220.72Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail
lou72.wabash.net
208.145.220.72Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail
lou72.wabash.net
208.145.220.72HAMILTON/TORONTO DUCKS
proxy-324.public.rwc.webtv.net
209.240.200.24Re: Brampton
ppp7316.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.207.44Re: Canadian Hunting Newsgroup.
ppp7316.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.207.44Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail
slip32.alfredtech.edu
136.224.2.32Re: where are we from
usr2-34.interlinks.net
209.5.79.130Re: grouse area
ts6-30t-9.idirect.com
209.161.225.169Re: where are we from
ts6-30t-9.idirect.com
209.161.225.169Re: Brampton
ts6-30t-9.idirect.com
209.161.225.169Re: where are we from
ts6-30t-9.idirect.com
209.161.225.169Re: Beagles
spider-wl012.proxy.aol.com
205.188.199.22Re: where are we from
oshawappp7.idirect.com
207.136.101.7Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail
spider-ta084.proxy.aol.com
152.163.205.84Re: where are we from
dyn208-28-60-84.cha.mnsi.net
208.28.60.84Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail
204.66.107.192
204.66.107.192Re: Canadian Hunting Newsgroup.
ppp7299.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.207.27Re: Canadian Hunting Newsgroup.
ppp7299.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.207.27Re: Canadian Hunting Newsgroup.
as3-10.iaw.on.ca
209.5.117.19Re: where are we from
ppp7303.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.207.31Canadian Hunting Newsgroup.
ppp7303.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.207.31Canadian Hunting Newsgroup.
ppp7303.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.207.31Re: Game count
ppp7303.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.207.31Game count
as6-20.iaw.on.ca
209.5.118.29Re: FIREARMS FOR SALE
207-172-64-174.s174.tnt17.brd.erols.com
207.172.64.174Re: where are we from
tmns12-5.onlink.net
207.210.96.147Re: Mike
ts7-34t-4.idirect.com
209.161.242.51Gooderham
ts7-34t-4.idirect.com
209.161.242.51Re: where are we from
iah17-58.barrie.connex.net
209.212.39.58Re: Mike
ppp14137.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.167.136Re: 303 Epps & Wildcats
ppp14137.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.167.136Re: 303 Epps & Wildcats
ppp14137.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.167.136Re: where are we from
ppp14137.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.167.136Mike
as2-32.iaw.on.ca
209.5.116.206Re: grouse area
as2-32.iaw.on.ca
209.5.116.206Re: 303 Epps & Wildcats
ts7-41t-15.idirect.com
209.161.243.158Re: where are we from
ts7-41t-15.idirect.com
209.161.243.158Re: Crimestoppers patch
as2-32.iaw.on.ca
209.5.116.206Re: 303 Epps & Wildcats
as2-32.iaw.on.ca
209.5.116.206where are we from
as2-32.iaw.on.ca
209.5.116.206Input to 30.06
as2-32.iaw.on.ca
209.5.116.206303 Epps & Wildcats
ppp14032.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.167.31Re: Possable New World Record Whitetail
cache.npoint.net
209.251.108.4Re: Hey JACK, where's your input on the 30-06?????
liv4-46.oshawa.idirect.com
207.136.121.238Re: Hey JACK, where's your input on the 30-06?????
as2-46.iaw.on.ca
209.5.116.220Re: Turkey
as2-39.iaw.on.ca
209.5.116.213Turkey
oshawaisdn72.idirect.com
207.136.101.199Re: 30-06
oshawaisdn72.idirect.com
207.136.101.199Re: 30-06
ts7-37t-27.idirect.com
209.161.242.218Re: ducks/geese
128.100.156.28
128.100.156.28Hey JACK, where's your input on the 30-06?????
ts7-4t-23.idirect.com
209.161.228.199Re: 30-06
as1-45.iaw.on.ca
209.5.116.173Re: 30-06
as1-45.iaw.on.ca
209.5.116.173Re: ducks/geese
ppp12838.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.162.37Re: 30-06 - Dead Site?
ppp14137.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.167.136Re: 30-06
ppp14137.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.167.136Re: 30-06
ts6-37t-17.idirect.com
209.161.226.145Re: Canadian Firearms Info/Webpage
warp75.warplink.com
204.50.239.17530-06
tmns3-6.onlink.net
206.108.254.116Re: It looks like you guys have a great page here
as2-24.iaw.on.ca
209.5.116.198Re: ducks/geese
128.100.156.28
128.100.156.28Re: It looks like you guys have a great page here
x2-2-17.tor.idirect.com
207.136.98.17Re: It looks like you guys have a great page here
ts6-21t-12.idirect.com
209.161.224.140Re: Saskatchewan Disgrace
prnask01d02010111.sk.sympatico.ca
142.165.115.11Crimestoppers patch
207.164.1.226
207.164.1.226Re: Small Game
ppp7280.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.207.8It looks like you guys have a great page here
tmns8-4.onlink.net
207.210.96.52It looks like you guys have a great page here
tmns8-4.onlink.net
207.210.96.52ducks/geese
ppp12833.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.162.32Goose Hunting
128.100.156.28
128.100.156.28Need a used scope
207.164.1.226
207.164.1.226Re: Deer in 60A
142.106.249.152
142.106.249.152Canadian Firearms Info/Webpage
ppp14103.on.bellglobal.com
206.172.167.102Don't expect my support!!
207.164.1.226
207.164.1.226